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08-20-2008, 09:42 PM #1
[quote=Russel Baldridge;250411]I do like your list for the breaking points as they pertain to razors, the labels could be changed for personal preference. Yes, per you semantic pleasure
The average dimension is decreasing, but there is a nonlinear edge that remains just about constant. So really you are just smoothing out the irregularities after ~1k.And you say that is the effect of polishing(imprecise action) rather than sharpening(precise action)
There's nothing to buy into, that's just the way it is.
The function of the tool cannot be left out of the question. A nakayama is the zen-stone for a razor, but it's a "waste of time" stone for a utility knife.I know you refer to a high quality nakayma polishing stone....wait what'd i just say. nakayama in an of itself doesn't descrbe much
Both must be sharpened, but the intended use determines the label you give the stone that each is finished on. ?[/quote]
The zen aspect is the act of creating nothing. -I thought it clever
It's been fun discussing however, I'm sorry I brought it up.
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08-20-2008, 10:11 PM #2
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Thanked: 150Yes, apologies are due for the hijack. Sorry, Scott.
You guys mention making passes from both sides of the stone, is that to dislodge some of the metal that may be caught against some of the grit, or to make use of the other side of the grit particles that may not be coated in metal?
Does it significantly extend the time between cleanings?
I would be surprised if your comet and scouring pad method harmed the stone, so if it's working, I say keep doing it.
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08-21-2008, 01:43 AM #3
I don't know about making passes from both sides, it all ends up in the same X-pattern
for me. I also don't think that Comet is a soap per-se, but if I can find a nylon brush
that does the same job I'd be happy to use that as well.
Thanks for all of the input!
- Scott
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08-21-2008, 01:48 AM #4
I rotate my stones ....as far as flipping after like 10-20 strokes. I can difinitiely say that my stones are no longer white. I try to rub them off with my hand under water, but they arent the same as when i first got them.
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08-21-2008, 02:13 AM #5
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Thanked: 351Not sure about the Comet branded stuff but many scouring powders do contain bleach of some form. I'd suggest reading the fine print before using it on a Shapton. It would be fine for Spyderco hones as they are fired ceramics, the Shaptons use some sort of resin binder, sort of like epoxy glue with grit mixed in it. Still trying to get around to using the Nagura... it's essentially scouring powder loosely bound into a block... it shouldn't have anything detrimental to a Shapton hone in it.
Regards
Kaptain "Why the h*ll do I have to go to a wedding this weekend, don't these people understand I have research to do?!?!?" Zero"Aw nuts, now I can't remember what I forgot!" --- Kaptain "Champion of lost causes" Zero
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08-21-2008, 12:30 PM #6
I haven't tried this either but the thread got me thinking; Maybe a use( as "nagura") for that old novaculite? Assuming it's degreased, cleaned and lapped of course.
if you label the corners A B
C D
when using only one side B D thee is little to no honing at the corners AC right?
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08-21-2008, 06:15 PM #7sort of like epoxy glue with grit mixed in it
future. Hopefully the nylon brush or cloth will accomplish the same task, but if they
don't I'm not against lapping every few razors.
- Scott