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Thread: Escher advertising ?
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11-08-2008, 03:58 AM #11
Interesting, Jimmy. I did wonder why you thought the dark blue was so coarse. The one I scored recently if you remember, which also has bottom and end label very nicely intact is definitely a fine finishing stone and is also a hard stone like you've found.
In my life right now, I have almost zero time to hone and try the stones I own. Or, I should say I need to spend less time actually on SRP and more time in "Razorville" as my wife calls my area of the basement I've set up. I have no excuse for that.
Blaireau has commented something to the effect that in his opinion, the dark blue Eschers are the lowest grade Escher and therefore the least of the Escher performers. If I got his opinions of that stone wrong, I hope he can correct me here. I can not comment on the dark blue since I have yet to put it through the paces, but by feel (which has been a good indicator to date for me), it seems to be a top notch stone.
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Must make time to hone!!!!!!
Chris L"Blues fallin' down like hail." Robert Johnson
"Aw, Pretty Boy, can't you show me nuthin but surrender?" Patti Smith
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11-08-2008, 05:12 AM #12
Chris, I don't want to put words in Blaireau's mouth and then quote him but....... in conversations with him I think his assessment is based on the dark blue being the least collectible. I may be wrong. Blaireau values the yellow/green most highly and that is the most collectible. He told me he had a Fox that was definitely a yellow/green and that it was a great stone.
I have inquired of some of the heavy hitters in honing and stone collecting and they pretty much agreed that all of the Eschers are finishing stones. As a matter of fact Lynn has used all of them and favors the blue/green which he still uses.
Like you I need to do more honing with them to come to a conclusion. I have so many stones that I tend to neglect focusing on the Eschers but I have come to the conclusion that the light green with slurry does an excellent job in sharpening a razor and is good for finishing with water only.
My lately acquirred yellow/green is a killer finisher. I haven't tried it with slurry yet but as a finisher with water only I got a smooth as silk shave off of the hone. (after stropping)
I have used the blue/green a lot as it was my first Escher and my first natural finishing stone. It is also a hell of a water only finisher. I have to try it with slurry too and see what that is about.
The dark blue as I said earlier is a finisher. At least in the few times I used it as such it did a first rate job. Here again my individual stones have these characteristics based on my particular technique. As Russel and Randy are always pointing out all natural stones are different so maybe others will come to different conclusions with their Eschers. They ain't like buying a set of GlassStones.Be careful how you treat people on your way up, you may meet them again on your way back down.
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11-09-2008, 03:50 AM #13
As of late, I have been experimenting with my Blue/Green Escher and just recently acquired a literally NOS Dark Blue Escher-in the box never lapped.
I have not yet succumbed to the 30K Shapton Glass hone-but I have found that using the 16k AS WELL as the Eschers have resulted in some VERY comfortable shaving razors. Although sometimes not SCARY sharp-certaintly sharp enough for VERY comfortable shaves.
One thing about honing....just when you think you have it figured out-you realize you don't. Every blade is different-every rock is different. If it was easy, it wouldn't be fun and we couldn't justify spending more money.
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11-09-2008, 05:15 PM #14
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Thanked: 17The SRP has scored a first in American journalism, all of the quotes attributed to me are CORRECT!!! I rank the Y/G highest because it is the most collectable but I also believe that it slightly edges out the other Eschers on the smoothness of finish, but this may be a self-fulfilling prophecy. All these stones are great finishing hones, the best that Europe has to offer. I think that the colors indicate the hardness of the chalk matrix with the Y/G being the softest. I'm basing this on personal experience as well as the label on a Fox Y/G that I sold some time ago which made a point of stating that the stone is very soft. In any event, we are all priviledged who have one or more (like Jimmy :-)) of these stones, they are a joy to hone with. BTW, sometimes when I hone the razor never rocks and other times it rocks as if I have Parkinson's! I think that the honing quality imposed by the "honemeister" probably has more to do with subsequent performance than the Escher stone quality! Just a thought.
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11-14-2008, 05:50 AM #15
to JimmyH-AD
i have to blame Chris L for this
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11-14-2008, 06:03 AM #16
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11-14-2008, 02:52 PM #17
You may try the Stukenbrok catalogue. I have a Stukenbrok razor hone that is basically a rebranded Escher: http://straightrazorpalace.com/show-...-disguise.html
Stukenbrok catalogues have been reprinted (beautiful graphics) and are sold by Amazon.Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose. Jean-Baptiste Alphonse Karr.
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11-14-2008, 03:00 PM #18
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11-14-2008, 05:20 PM #19
No, but on ebay.de they are cheaper, check here: eBay: stukenbrok, Bücher, Sammeln Seltenes, Antiquitäten KunstPlus ça change, plus c'est la même chose. Jean-Baptiste Alphonse Karr.