Thread: Coticule or Shapton?

I think you misread.

When I feel like an engineer I use the synthetics; when I am feeling more like a poet I use the naturals.

Shapton might invent a new stone tomorrow and then you'd be out of the clique. A coticule is simply a must have for a shaver imho

Well actually I cut and pasted the text directly from their website.

I'm definitely leaning towards the coticule, but had wondered about the escher and that "wire edge" statement in the text of The timber tools website.

More from their website: "The Escher is NOT recommended as a final hone if you have used the natural Belgian garnet stone in advance. We are often asked about this combination use and can, at best, offer the advice that Belgian hones produce an edge without burrs, therefore that edge is already drawn to a more ideal finish, not gaining any advantage using the Escher."

Question; am I misreading the intent o the text? Maybe it should be written as Excher to smooth out Burrs created by other synthetic stones...??
the text / info seems unclear to me.

I think I'll go read some Einstein theories now..

[quote=Stagehand;297013]The Shapton stone holder is a great piece of equipment. It is 2 1/4" tall and very heavy and stable.[/quote]

There are two things. One is a stone "case" that will hold 3 or 4? hones as well as one on the top for honing. Then there is the stone "holder" which I'm assuming is heavier and is not used for storing the hones.

Does the case do a decent job of holding a stone when honing?
Or is the holder dramatically better for that?

Is the case really convenient for storing the stones? and will it hold one or two more (like a DMT?). Can't tell but it seems it's for 3 or maybe 4 stones.

The case actually costs less than the holder. I assume it doesn't hold a stone as well/solidly as the holder but if it has value as a storage solution too... yes, I know you can just wrap your stones in a towel.

I think Kevint is right - you mis-read it. It isn't worded too clearly. I think it means that the "...man made or natural abrasives..." leave the wire edge that the escher refines. I also think that the other source quoted means that there is no advantage in using the escher after the coticule (or, indeed, vice-versa). Not that I agree with the supposition that they do they same thing! Horses for courses...

Regards,
Neil

Yeah I messed up and used my Escher blue/green after my coticule and got a really nice shave before I read that and found it wouldn't do me any good. I just re-read the fellow's ad and he is saying , as noted by Neil and Kevint, that the synthetics leave the wire edge or burr and the Escher polishes it off.

On the following the coticule with an Escher he is saying there is no point as the coticule leaves as fine an edge as the Escher so it is redundant. I don't think that is necessarily so. Might depend on the stone. I know that Lynn often follows whatever stones he is using with a blue/geen Escher. I think that includes coticules, at least until the Shapton 16K came along.

The way you guys explain it it makes better text, didnt think a wire edge was that desirable on a razor...thats why we strop!... but I knew that...I really did!

The holder is for honing only. I don't know anything about the case. As for storage I keep the hones in the original cardboard boxes they came in. The boxes are fairly heavy and do a good job protecting the hones. Just dry them before you put them away.