Please tell me if my plan is good

**ben.mid** · 07-12-2009, 04:09 PM

The plan seems sound, though i've no experience with those stones. Going by the grit rating they should be very useful provided you don't have to remove chips or do any serious bevel setting.
As i'm sure you know, honing is as much to do with the abilities of the honer, as it is the stone. If your two blades have only had a bit of bad stropping they really should be able to be corrected with the coticule, swaty & pastes. If you can't get them shave ready with what you've already got, don't be frustrated if you still can't with new hones. Study & practise & it'll come though!

**JimmyHAD** · 07-12-2009, 04:09 PM

Sounds good to me. The only thing I might add would be an 8x3 DMTE 1200 continuous diamond plate. Speeds up bevel setting considerably and can be used for knives and other cutting tools.

**Gunner777** · 07-12-2009, 07:46 PM

I'm using the Naniwa stone and like them a lot. The only one I might add is a 1000 for bevel setting otherwise you have a solid plan.
The best of luck it's a fun journey!

**aroliver59** · 07-12-2009, 07:54 PM

If you decide to get the stones,you will still need to lap them even when new,and again after some use,so maybe the DMT-8C should be added.

**TexasBob** · 07-12-2009, 08:02 PM

Originally Posted by Gunner777

... The only one I might add is a [Naniwa] 1000 for bevel setting ...

Originally Posted by JimmyHAD

... The only thing I might add would be an 8x3 DMTE 1200 continuous diamond plate. Speeds up bevel setting ...

Any reasons to choose one over the other? The Naniwa 1000 would save a few bucks and would be part of a set. Can the DMT 1200 be used to improve upon a lapping done with the DMT8C 325?

**holli4pirating** · 07-12-2009, 08:13 PM

I would also suggest adding something in in the 1K region. I use a King 1K; it was cheap and I'm happy with the job it does.

On the high end, you will have to expeirment with which hone gives which blade the best finish; I have shaved off a 12K, a Swaty, and a coticule. In general, I found that my Swaty (it was one with three lines of text) and 12K (I have a C12K) left sharper edges that my coticule. But your 12K is different from mine, your Swaty may be, and coticules have variations since they are naturals. In short, you'll have to play with razors off all three stones.

With regards to "improving" on lapping; I use my Swaty or C12K to remove any lapping scratches left by my DMTC. The Swaty is hard, a slow cutter, and non-porus, so it works well for that application. I would not recommend using your coticule for this (waste of good coticule, and it may not work depending on the hardness of your coticule), and I couldn't say with regards to your 12K since, again, mine is different.

**hi_bud_gl** · 07-12-2009, 08:20 PM

I agree you will need 1k. i can say between 1k naniwa and dmt which one to choose. I choose naniwa. i never used king 1k can't say anything about it.
Let me add alittle more why 1 k naniwa is better.
dmt you will need brake in at first then it doesn' last longer. if you use it regularly i have it will not last longer then 8 months. naniwa will last a lot longer.
hope this helps.

**TexasBob** · 07-12-2009, 08:44 PM

From what I am reading here and from another look at the WiKi I think the following needs a little update:

5000: set a bevel on a non-shave ready razor
8000: sharpen the razor
12000: polish it smooth

That should probably be

1000: set a bevel on a non-shave ready razor
5000: sharpen the razor
8000: polish it smooth
12000: finish

Maybe the 0.5 and 0.25 paste to refine the above?

**Leighton** · 07-12-2009, 08:46 PM

Originally Posted by TexasBob

Any reasons to choose one over the other? The Naniwa 1000 would save a few bucks and would be part of a set. Can the DMT 1200 be used to improve upon a lapping done with the DMT8C 325?

I'd get the Naniwa 1k. I either don't use the DMT or finish with the Nani.

However, if you aren't setting any bevels and your razors don't have a lot of damage, to save money, I would just get the 8k and 12k. Or just the 12k. But thats my frugal side talking.

As for using the dmt 1200 to lap stones with....DON'T DO IT!!!!!!! A black slurry will start to form and thats not from the water stone....

**hi_bud_gl** · 07-12-2009, 09:06 PM

Originally Posted by TexasBob

From what I am reading here and from another look at the WiKi I think the following needs a little update:
That should probably be

1000: set a bevel on a non-shave ready razor
5000: sharpen the razor
8000: polish it smooth
12000: finish

Maybe the 0.5 and 0.25 paste to refine the above?

excellent add diamond paste+chro2
you done. and have fun

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