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    If you don't want to restore, you probably won't need a 1k
    but the gap between the 8 k Norton (which translates to 5k JIS)
    and the 12k (which isn't actually a real 12k but its very hard) is big.
    Depends on your patience.
    You'll need very many strokes on that Chnese 12 k.
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    Then it looks like I need to scope for an 8k or something then, any reccomendations on a stone that doesn't cost $120?

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    Take it slow. there are people who can shave off of a Norton 8k
    When you've mastered to hone, you can still decide and
    then you know better about the value or what it might be worth to you.

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    Daniel,
    You can come off that 8k stone and use a hard strop with Crox, which is equal to 30k. Give the blade 10 or 15 light strokes, and then strop it and use it. You will eventually figure out how much you will need to use the Crox to renew the blade. The 4k/8k combination will suite you just fine I think. I used that stone for a short while, and that's what I did and it worked just fine for me. By the way, I sent you and email with the tracking number.

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    Are we talking more then seventy strokes or so on the 12k?

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    *taken out sorry for inconvenience*
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    Wow you guys are confusing the heck outta me, no telling what you a doing to somebody new to honing....

    A Norton 4k/8k into a CH12k is a fine set up, the only problem is the amount of stokes the ch12k might take...

    As to the different grit ratings I think you guys are reaching a little far there....

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    Quote Originally Posted by gssixgun View Post
    Wow you guys are confusing the heck outta me, no telling what you a doing to somebody new to honing....

    A Norton 4k/8k into a CH12k is a fine set up, the only problem is the amount of stokes the ch12k might take...

    As to the different grit ratings I think you guys are reaching a little far there....
    Glen is right if you are talking a 75 or 100 strokes on anything something is wrong unless your digging out a chip. If your having to do that many you were not ready for that stone.

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    Alrighty then.
    I have a Norton 4k/8k, belgian coticule, and a chinese 12k being sent to me. I believe this should be fairly decent setup for honing and I may supplement it with chromium oxide on one side of my linen strop. I was going to try and get a thruigen to fill in between the norton and the chinese, but the price of doing so is ghastly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by khaos View Post
    There's a chart in there, but bear in mind that a Norton 4k = Shapton 3k, and Norton 8k = Shapton 5 or 6k, so I think things are a little messed up. I feel the Shapton 8k should be in the polisher section and the Norton 8k is border line in the sharpening section but I guess thats just how whoever wrote that uses them. However the 4k/8k should do you well for now, and you can get a Chinese 12k if you want. You'll need patience though. I would recommend a coticule. They're a little faster, and from what I've seen and been told some people go Norton 1k 4k 8k coticule chinese from dull as a brick to beautiful (I was given the option to try this, but due to limited time and razors opted to try the finish straight off of a coticule- which is amazing in my opinion, and straight off and Escher- which is even better). SOOOO. Pick your poison.
    I dont know where you are getting all this info about what stones match where.. But my advice is try them and see..... Then after you try it one way on about 100 razors, switch it all up, and do another 100 a different way...

    You are going to find that those grit ratings mean next to nothing.... so I would be very hesitant on quoting them....

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