Thread: Buying a New Set of Hones

Originally Posted by khaos

probably about 100. If I remember my teachings right. And you shouldn't refer to grits outside of series. When you say, should I get an 8k, well... you already have an 8k. 8k Norton. 8k JIS would be Naniwa or Shapton (-ish, Shapton isn't exactly JIS) and 8k in ANSI and FEPA is off the charts fine. Like, higher than 50k JIS. I would use categories such as massive steel removal (taking out frowns and or rust and such), setting a bevel, sharpening, polishing, and final polishing/finishing. So you're asking do you need a polisher?
What hone(s) do I need? - Straight Razor Place Wiki
There's a chart in there, but bear in mind that a Norton 4k = Shapton 3k, and Norton 8k = Shapton 5 or 6k, so I think things are a little messed up. I feel the Shapton 8k should be in the polisher section and the Norton 8k is border line in the sharpening section but I guess thats just how whoever wrote that uses them. However the 4k/8k should do you well for now, and you can get a Chinese 12k if you want. You'll need patience though. I would recommend a coticule. They're a little faster, and from what I've seen and been told some people go Norton 1k 4k 8k coticule chinese from dull as a brick to beautiful (I was given the option to try this, but due to limited time and razors opted to try the finish straight off of a coticule- which is amazing in my opinion, and straight off and Escher- which is even better). SOOOO. Pick your poison.

Wow man, not to be a d***, but you've come an awfully long way since you started thinking about buying your first hone way back in June to be giving this kind of advice.

Originally Posted by GUESSKOENIG

Alrighty then.
I have a Norton 4k/8k, belgian coticule, and a chinese 12k being sent to me. I believe this should be fairly decent setup for honing and I may supplement it with chromium oxide on one side of my linen strop. I was going to try and get a thruigen to fill in between the norton and the chinese, but the price of doing so is ghastly.

You NEED the Norton 4/8
everything else you get is just extra....

*taken out sorry for inconvenience*

Originally Posted by Philadelph

Wow man, not to be a d***, but you've come an awfully long way since you started thinking about buying your first hone way back in June to be giving this kind of advice.

So why bother writing that response if not to be a d***?

I respectfully apologise. I have overstepped my bounds on a forum where apparently our right to freedom of speech is curtailed.

But you can....
There is the difference, we haven't honed 2 razors we have honed many many razors, at least Don, Alex, and I have, that I know for sure...

I myself have used every hone you mention, so has Don, I am not sure what all Alex uses....

And what we are telling you is the way you wrote that is wrong...it is confusing, and that is bad... Sorry

I don't normally write posts like this but you confused the whole thread so I WILL clarify it again and again for you, and anyone else reading it....

OK. I am sorry. I will take it down then.

Originally Posted by GUESSKOENIG

I use a 4000/8000 aluminum oxide stone lubricated with oil to sharpen and repair knives, but I can not use this stone to maintain a sharp edge on any straight razor because it is much too rough on them. So, I was wondering about purchasing the following:

JAPANESE WATER STONES SET OF 3 - eBay (item 170365829099 end time Aug-05-09 12:05:10 PDT)

However, I can not find any research on that brand and do not see myself needing to use an 800 on a straight razor except something that has a canyon in it. I was wondering if anyone had used these stones before and any reccomendations for an alternative (under $100 please).

Guess,

One thing which may have been overlooked in the conversation here is your comment that you intend to use your hone(s) to maintain an edge - not create one. There is a difference. You might be able to get along with something as simple, and inexpensive, as the much discussed Chinese 12.000 (or so) grit wet stone (whet stone?) ((wet water whet stone?)) HONE! Regardless, maintaining an edge is much simpler than creating one or restoring an old rat.

I'm not a honester, but have a bunch of hones, probably too many, and have sharpened my own razors and re-edged some old rats. For my face and stubble, and my technique, and for touching up an edge, I find myself returning to an old and relatively small coticule and a few strokes on one or the other paddle strops I made and coated with TI paste and CrOx.

good luck, good honing, and good shaving,

Originally Posted by khaos

So why bother writing that response if not to be a d***?

I respectfully apologise. I have overstepped my bounds on a forum where apparently our right to freedom of speech is curtailed.

A lot worse could have been said as I review much of your posting lately. Some people have gone way out of their way to give you the opportunity to learn. I hope you do exactly that and I would recommend that you leave it right here.

Thank you,

Lynn

I don't understand what this is all about, cause basically I've said the same.
Maybe time to get that Norton to put some background to it.

I know this is a bit old but from my research, it looks like the norton set is a good starter set (220/1000, 4k/8k, and the lapping/flattening stone) for $119. With this I need a finisher, I decided to go with an Escher. Is this the original Escher and can someone tell me where I can find one new and what I should be spending for one? Thanks!