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    I would have put this in the International Forums, but seeing as Wales doesn't have it's own sub-forum, and because it relates to hones, I posted here instead.

    I wanted to ask if someone could give me an idea as to where the following locations are in relation to each other: Aberllefenni, Gwynedd; Conway; Bethesda; Bethgellert; Corris; Glyder Vawr, Snowdonia; Llyn Idwall; Llyn Ogwen; Gwastadnant Grits, Moel Berfedd; Moel Siabod and Prestatyn

    I suppose I could have done this myself, but my main source of information for geographical research is the online AA Route Planner, and some of these places don't show up, so I'm throwing it open to our Welsh members.


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    Alex...Mate, I'm beginning to think you MIGHT have a problem.

    Or you're researching a book...which is still a kind of problem.


    It's ok, man, we're here for you. The first step is admitting it.

    Like this:

    I'm Jim, and I am addicted to rock.

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    They all show up on Google Maps - providing you have the spelling correct:

    Bethgelert has only one "l"
    Glyder Fawr has and "f" instead of a "v"
    Conway has to have Wales next to it in the search bar
    Llyn Idwal has one "l" at the end

    Gwastadnant Grits doesn't show - probably because it is the name of a substance, not a place, found near Moel Berfedd, nr Snowdon.

    Update: the place is called simply "Gwastadnant" - the "grits" or gritsone is found there. It shows on Google Maps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimR View Post
    It's ok, man, we're here for you. The first step is admitting it.

    Like this:

    I'm Jim, and I am addicted to rock.
    I can just see you at the H.A. weekly gathering Jim, taking the floor and announcing "Hello, my name is Jim and I'm a HoneAholic..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimR View Post
    Alex...Mate, I'm beginning to think you MIGHT have a problem.

    Or you're researching a book...which is still a kind of problem.


    It's ok, man, we're here for you. The first step is admitting it.

    Like this:

    I'm Jim, and I am addicted to rock.
    I admitted having a problem ages ago, it just didn't do any good unfortunately. A lot of the names of hones/ quarries I've come across are found in obscure reference books, most of which are now well over a century old, and the idea that so many highly esteemed hones have been lost to the ages is very troubling, I lose sleep over it. As far as these Welsh locations are concerned, they're not all new to me, it's that often the name of the location or the product, and it's spelling will often change over the years and I wanted to get a fix on just how many of these I need to be looking for, I think I've got it down to 13. The only new one which sounds really promising is Glydr Fawr, a regional travelogue describes the hones as being of excellent quality, and states that they were exported to London in great numbers, alas it doesn't go into detail as to what the stones looked like.

    Neil, I got the names out of some articles authored by Welshmen, they should be ashamed that they can't spell Welsh place names correctly.

    Kindest regards,
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimR View Post
    I'm Jim, and I am addicted to rock.
    Everybody must get stoned.

    Or honed. Or something.

    ~Rich

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    Quote Originally Posted by rastewart View Post
    Everybody must get stoned.

    Or honed. Or something.

    ~Rich
    are you implying that Jim is "Honeward Bound...?"

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    I am not Welsh but I do know locations you talking about reasonably well. Usualy mixture of rhyolite, diorite. schist. However with your Gwastadnant can also be found bazalt which if you look from right spot makes like huge tortoise shapes on the slope.

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    Another question about Welsh geography here. I've found a reference to a hone-stone quarry on the Penrhyn estate near Llyn Ogwen. However, I'm not sure if this location is distinct from the quarry at Llyn Idwal, as one reference I have states that the Idwal quarry still existed in the 1980's at Llyn Ogwen. Are there two distinct quarries in the area or not?

    Kindest regards,
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    On bottom of the Ogwen is huge quarry and peppered around are small holes. if you can be more specific I possibly could help more. I have somewhere Ogwen valey specific geological booklet hopefully I can find it.

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