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    Nope, I found substitude for aoto. Morihei recommends Tsushima-do for initial sharpening of razors. I am expecting this in a mail

    Tsushima-do is not Arato. But it is Nakado little closed to Finishing stone.
    For initial sharpening, we usually start with Arato. But for razors, you do not need to start from Arato.
    Tsushima-do is soft stone and it is fragile like Arato.
    But it is closer to Nakado than Aoto.
    Tsushima-do is fragile. But it won’t damage blades of razors like Aoto does because Tsushima-do has even quality in whole.
    Tsushima-do is fragile. So, it is covered by 4 layers of lacquer and Japanese paper.




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    Tsushima is much finer then Aoto and slower so i will not call it Aoto substitude.
    Fragile Tsushimas come from water mountain and not so good for razors they are much cheaper too and way to soft !
    But stil much better then those crapy Aotos !

    The good Tsushimas come from dry mountain and very expensive super rare too they are super hard and fast will be the best pre polisher for razors, but still not as coarse or as fast as good Aoto !
    Super clean and good Aoto can be used for razors but i have only seen one of those out of many many Aotos
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    "Substitude" for initial sharpening )

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxim207 View Post
    very expensive super rare too they are super hard and fast
    Do you know the price range?

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    No i did not see them in a wail
    I try to get some links
    I think 30 000 - 40 000 yen is aprox

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    Here are some videos of good Aoto and bad one.

    Bad one: I even soaked that one for 5 min. or more



    Good vintage one: without soaking at all


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    Quote Originally Posted by maxim207 View Post
    Super clean and good Aoto can be used for razors but i have only seen one of those out of many many Aotos
    Well, looks like Morihei is right again. In general, aoto is not good for razors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Traskrom View Post
    Well, looks like Morihei is right again. In general, aoto is not good for razors
    But i will not even use them on knifes !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Traskrom View Post
    Well, looks like Morihei is right again. In general, aoto is not good for razors
    Morihei has his opinion about Aoto but that does not make it the universal truth.
    Stefan

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    And I never said that this is "the universal truth"

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