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    Hey guys,

    I noticed today in the supermarket some 300 'diamond' grit stones for knife sharpening at a crazy low price. I know I use low grit sandpaper to breadknife and honing at a frown and what not. Do you think a 300 grit stone has any use for razors in the process of restoring them?

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    I actually have and use such diamond hones.
    In germany "Lidl" a supermarket carried a set of 3 diamond plates
    (thin plate glued to plastik) in 300, 400 and 500
    for 5€ I just had to buy them.

    They have been used eversince. I once filed a tanto out of 4mm stock steel
    using these plates only, and still they cut very heavy.
    For this price they are very cool.
    But I hardly bring razors to them, except they really need some bad restoration.
    They are a very, very cheap substitution for the dmts,
    but they are of absultely low quality!

    You may encounter wild particles that will scratch your bevel to death...

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    lol its the same store and the same combination, only in a different country :-)

    Would they be suitable for breadknifing? I would not set a bevel on them obviously, but for breadknifing (I tear up a lot of paper using that, more expensive than the darn stones)

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    That set has saved me a lot of time lapping. I always start with one of these plates till the stone seems flat and I continue on 120 grit wp sanding paper. These diamand plates are not perfectly flat and personally I wouldn't use it for honing razors or decent knifes.

    One of the plates that I had only used once just fell from it's plastic backing last week. I still have to glue it back on.

    I've succesfully used 80 grit wp sanding paper for breadknifing on a glass plate. If you use speed and light pressure you won't wear out the sanding paper much.

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    Yeah, I had to glue mine, too. Like I siad, bottom notch (can you say that? I meant opposite of top notch ^^ )

    I once tried to breadknife on these hones, and didnīt find it working for me (at all, on any stone)
    I just (right this second) finished a badly, badly recurved blade on the 300 grit stone.
    Remember it has seen a lot of use, so all wild particles are gone by now.
    Instead of bk'ing it, i just made straight sharpening patterns.
    Straight down, with no X or anything, and by fokusing pressure with my fingertips to the heel, or the point.
    It took half an hour to an hour until I got a quite flat bevel, without recurve.
    Of course I had to change tape frequently.
    But it worked very well

    They are indeed not perfectly flat, so for laping they are not that useful.
    I often lapped stones with them initially, but had hard times on the sandpaper on glas getting the stones really flat.
    But I get perfectly even bevels with these stones.
    You can tell, the freshly lapped Naniwa 1k takes all the scratches off
    and finishes evenly along the whole bevel

    I had to use these hones perhaps a dozen times for razors and mostly knifes.
    So they paid off for me. If you do a lot more restoration,
    I would consider the DMTīs as they are perfectly flat and made of monocrystals that are much more durable

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    Yup, the DMTC is a 325 grit hone, and people use it for restoration work or for lapping other hones.

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