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    Default Arkansas for the HADdites.

    If one were to be suffering from a debilitating disease requiring the constant infusion of new stones, would the Black or the Translucent Arkansas be a better treatment?

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    What do you want it for?

    Blacks are rated ~4k JIS.

    Trans, it's probably safe to assume are 6k+. (Edit: they are rated as 950 at one retailer... ~5k JIS).

    Blacks at least are typically oil-stone and not water.
    Trans I'd assume the same, but don't know.

    Blacks can finish a razor, but probably nowhere near the standard you're used to.
    Trans are in the same boat, but a little closer.

    I'm told that both are very slow cutters when used with razors... being oilstones, I can buy that.


    *This is old JIS... I don't know how to translate it to new JIS. There are charts about that can though.
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    Ya know you're gonna buy both doncha ?
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    Jim, listen to Onimaru

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    And you'll need a Washita for bevel setting
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    Ian, I see you're new here. "What do you want it for?" is a question that has NO ANSWER for the truly diseased. I want it because it is a rock, and I can rub a razor on it.

    So I guess it's decided, as I'm a degenerate addict...anybody have a good (cheap) source for translucents? Woodcraft has a nice looking boxed set of three --soft, hard and black 6x2s--for $52...

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    That price can hardly get any better!
    Except that they are quite small.

    I'm still looking for a good sized black one as well.

    Arkansas have some kind of charm I would not want to miss.
    For certain steels they are just the perfect solution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0livia View Post
    That price can hardly get any better!
    Except that they are quite small.

    I'm still looking for a good sized black one as well.

    Arkansas have some kind of charm I would not want to miss.
    For certain steels they are just the perfect solution.
    Yeah, Woodcraft has 8x3s but they are $50 each and if I want the full range, I just can't justify that extra couple of inches.

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    The translucent is supposed to be finer but Keith at HandAmerican uses the surgical black for his straights.

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    Refer to Dan's grading guide. Stones are graded by density.

    Stone Grades 101

    If I were you (and I am close when it comes to HAD), I would contact Dan (or Natural Whetstone Company Home Page, www.hallsproedge.comor other maker) and see if you can get him to sell you a high density stone with only one side finished and the other 3 left rough. Perhaps with a combination of colors. an irregular if you will.

    Not that I have thought about this or anything.
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