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Thread: Help in stone ID, please
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12-09-2009, 06:22 PM #1
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Thanked: 4Help in stone ID, please
Hello,
I need your help in identifying this stone. A friend told me that most probably it's a Charnley Forest - but I just want to be sure.
It was part of my Grandpa's shaving kit. It was dirty and chipped, probably soaked with old oil. I had to lap the top 1/4" to get a flat surface.
It is a bit greener than it appears in the photos. It has tiny brown/purplish dots, and on the back side, as you can see, a large inclusion of rough, orange material.
It's brittle and easily breaks in thin layers, like a slate.
Lapping was fairly easy, so I would say it's not as hard as a Coticule or Arkansas.
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12-09-2009, 06:45 PM #2
I don't know who's your friend but he is right.
GL
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12-09-2009, 08:28 PM #3
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Thanked: 402Looks like a Charnley to me.
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12-10-2009, 04:09 AM #4
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Thanked: 132Hmm...congrats, on a beautiful stone there.
All visual inspections aside, Charnley Forests, most definately are softer than hard arkansas ie., sugical blacks or translucents, however they are significantly harder, than any coticule i've come across...either yellow or blue...are you sure its softer than a coticule?
The color seems to indicate the possibility of Charnley, but your description says, that it is actually more/darker green than the photo, indicates? That certainly opens up other stone type possibilities, such as welsh slates and the Cuter's Green hones...also, you said it has spots? Are they through-out the hone, somewhat evenly distributed or are they concentrated spots, in clump-like forms?
Anyhow, i hope ya post some honing results for us...that is what is the most important, imo.
Many thanks,
MacLast edited by McWolf1969; 12-10-2009 at 04:53 AM.
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12-10-2009, 09:12 AM #5
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Thanked: 402ooooh... thin layers!
does it have a silky sheen or is it more powdery looking?
Should really have read before I talk.
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12-10-2009, 09:38 AM #6
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Thanked: 4Thank you everyone.
Well, I would say that it's softer than a Coticule because I didn't have as hard a time lapping it as with new Coticules... But it's true that I started with a very low grit sandpaper (#60) and I've never dared to touch my cotis with something like that. (I finished the surface with #1000 anyway)
Sposts or little "veins" are distributed throughout...
Olivia: if with "silky sheen" you mean the typical reflectivity of some hard coticules... no, it's not like that... It definitely reflects light in a "powdery" manner.
I still have to try it extensively, too many new stones and too few razors...
I tried it yesterday on a Naniwa #8000 edge, after 50 laps it had left a hazy pattern of fine scratches. Then 100 laps on leather and again 10 laps in backhoning, something I sometimes do with edges prone to microchipping - this was a stainless Hess. The shave was good but nothing stellar.
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12-10-2009, 10:12 AM #7
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12-10-2009, 08:07 PM #8
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Thanked: 202I have to agree with Sham. I have few CFs and Belgians and CFs are miles much harder.
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12-10-2009, 09:07 PM #9
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Thanked: 4Okay, to settle this thing I tried to rub the mistery hone with a Coticule bout, the slurry is white with a hint of grey/green so it's definitely not from the Coti... so yes the stone is softer than a coticule.
So i guess I'll just have to live without knowing what it is...
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12-11-2009, 12:50 AM #10
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Thanked: 202Can you post pictures of sides. So far I would say slate.