I just got my nani's in the other day. Itried the circle regiment but didn't have any luck.So I set the bevel using the circles then went to 15 strokes on the pyramid on the 5k/8k. Followed by 10 strokes on the 12k.i then used 50 strokes on a leather strop and as this was my first time using these hones i didn't expect the rusults i got. It passed the HHT and the shave was awsome. I'm new to honing and would recomend the hone set to all newbies. The feedback of these hones are excellent and I haven't herd any bad thoughts on any of the forums.Thanks for all the input guys.