I find myself saying odd things these days like: maybe you need a barber hone, or if you are going to spend a bunch of money for a razor hone-why not find an Escher?

The cotis I have are not what I consider slow cutters as I often read about them here. They start cutting steel instantly and I really enjoy the way they shave. So I don't think about improving them with other stones or paste. I do consider that I may someday be able to make even better edges with each than I currently do.

most of the "kyoto" stones that I have tried- that are hard enough- will make a good razor hone. Not one to follow the coticule, more likely to eliminate the need for it.