Thread: Coticule or Naniwa Set?

I'm racking my brain trying to decide, please offer some guidance.

I presently own a dmt 1200, 8X3 belgian blue (no slurry stone though), and a belgian yellow bout. I think I'd like to get a 8X3 yellow, plus a slurry stone to complete my honing system. However, I'm also thinking about the Naniwa set from SRD, 5000, 8000, 12000. Thoughts, comments, cursing...just kidding on the cursing. Help please. Thanks

encore,

The rules of HAD dictate that you get both the Naniwas and the 8x3 coti

I use the 1, 3, 8 & 12 k Naniwas, and for me, a relative newbie to honing, they have worked superbly.

I haven't got a natural, and I am hankering after a coti, which by coincidence, would also be an 8x3 !!

Good luck !

Have fun !

Best regards

Russ

I have Naniwas and a Coticule. I use my Naniwas all the time and rarely use my coticule (except as a finisher). So my preference is the Naniwas. That said, if you do decide to get a coticule, I don't think it's worthwhile to get an 8 x 3; again, just my own preferences, but I don't see any need for one that big, especially given the cost.

Naniwas all day. The thing is with the coticule is that you don't yet know what it can do. The Naniwas are very well known and proved performers. Besides that, a Naniwa 12K will give you a finer edge than just about any cotiucle by a quite a lot, with the exception of one or two vintage cotis out there...

Another +1 for the Naniwa's, they're great stones and very consistent. If you've got a coticule bout you can use that as a finisher if you like coticule edges, but the Naniwas will make things much easier in terms of consistently getting a good edge.

I hardly ever use my coticule to do a full honing and my default set of hones is the Naniwa 1/3/8/12k set with some sort of natural finisher afterwards.

I have a naniwa set (1k 3k 5k 8k and 12k) ánd a couple of natural combo's blue/coticule.

For me as beginner the naniwa's are easier to use but they are very expensive compared to a coticule. Also, and again in my personal experience, it takes me longer to put an edge to a razor using only a coticule.

In my limited experience, there's not much difference in edge between the two systems.

In terms of size, you effectively don't need a large coticule, I have a small (4cm width, 15-16cm long) coticule that's just perfect ánd was very cheap.

Originally Posted by decraew

ing only a coticule.

In my limited experience, there's not much difference in edge between the two systems.

I think most who have experienced both would favour the Naniwa 12K as a superior finisher to a coticule. It certainly does the trick in far fewer laps. Why, coming of an 8k you would only need 20 laps on a 12K and that is it. Off an 8k to a coticule I'd say around 50 as a minimum, probably in most cases more.

And then there is the quality finish itself. The trouble is there is a fair range of finishing capabilities between coticules and most are around 8-10K. Rarely some are as good as Eschers in the the 12K range and this is extremely rare.

But all Naniwa 12Ks are 12K and they all polish at the same speed.

Naniwas for me as well. I have both, and the quality of the edges I get off the Naniwas compared to coticule is chalk and cheese. Maybe I have a dud coticule or dont know how to use it, however I can get consistently reproducable results from the Naniwas.

The price from SRD for them is pretty good too.

Sounds like Naniwa is the winner. In that case, would I still "need" a 1k naniwa if I have the dmt 1200?

Thanks to everyone's replies.

Originally Posted by encore

Sounds like Naniwa is the winner. In that case, would I still "need" a 1k naniwa if I have the dmt 1200?

Thanks to everyone's replies.

You don't need a 1k if you have a DMT 1200. I'd recommend getting a 325DMT in order to lap your hones.