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    Sachiya,

    I am not sure if the Naniwa flattening stone is the composition same as the Norton flattening stone.

    If it is then 160/220 grit silicon carbide paper, used with soapy water on a peice of flat glass worked very well for me

    As you have pointed out, the hard part is figuring when to stop !

    I no longer use the Norton flattener, as I got a DMT 325 which Ihave found to be a much cleaner & easier way to lap hones.

    Have fun !

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    Quote Originally Posted by shooter74743 View Post
    You have me thinking, there is a granite works about 55-60 miles away from me who has a huge hard of slabs. I hear that they have a lot of pieces that they just throw away...could be used with our "sport" couldn't it...
    Yes go and grab some.... around here they sometimes call
    the extra bits 'drops' as they drop on the floor after cutting
    out a sink hole or the edges. Because of the equipment
    size and methods they are more than flat enough.

    A 'drop' that fits in the oven makes good pizza as long
    as it is a stone that can take the heat.

    A 'drop' makes a fine work surface in the kitchen for pie and candy.

    A 'drop' that has been trimmed to almost match your hones
    can make a great base. Use the no slip shelf liner stuff
    or router bench no slip stuff.

    A 'drop' makes a nice heat proof trivet in the kitchen.

    If you are lucky they may have a dense black, green or blue
    slate that could be sliced into hones. Depending on the slate they
    might be nice finishing hones or nice paperweights.

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    Chat room is open Piet's Avatar
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    Couldn't you have someone with an extra coarse DMT flatten it for you or would that ruin the DMT?
    Last edited by Piet; 09-19-2010 at 06:52 PM.

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    It may not "ruin" one, but would really put some serious wear on it. I doubt you could find someone to do it for you, but if you owned a few you could work on your own. I'll check into that place on "drops" and see what the scoop is on them. If they offer free stuff, I'll pass it on...
    Southeastern Oklahoma/Northeastern Texas helper. Please don't hesitate to contact me.
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    Many thanks to all of you for your replies.

    I will try Russ's suggestion (to avoid throwing 60 euro down the drain) and failing that look to acquire a DMT as suggested.

    I should have done more research before buying a flattening stone rather than buying one from the same place I got the naniwas for convenience.

    THANKS FOR THE HELPFUL COMMENTS!

    All the best,
    Paul

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    Don't beat yourself up, we all make those "convenience" mistakes...Lord knows I have made a plenty!
    Southeastern Oklahoma/Northeastern Texas helper. Please don't hesitate to contact me.
    Thank you and God Bless, Scott

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    Lynn sells the Naniwa lapping hones.
    Ask him.
    If he doesn't know the answer he can ask Naniwa. He has special red phones in his basement connected to Naniwa, Dovo, and Maestro Livi.
    Oh, and apparently Alex Jacques is being fitted with an ankle monitor.

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    The lapping stone does not have to be flat. If you lapped any stone on the sidewalk or any hard surface only the high spots will come in contact with the high spots on the stone and abrade the high spots on the stone. Which is the goal.

    Perfect flatness of stones is overrated. Someone had a tag line here wondering about “How much our ancestors worried if their stones were flat.” It’s not about flat as much as smooth, so a divot does not catch the edge of the razor, especially the edges of the stone.

    The razor is softer that the stone and rides on the tops of the high spots of the stone. Yea, you do want it some what flat, but perfectly flat, why?

    I have the Norton equivalent and do not like it. It is super messy and you get grit in soft stones, like Naniwas. If you do use it, make sure to wash your stone with a Scotch Brite pad and soapy water before you put a razor on it. I run a Kitchen knife on it slowly to feel if it catches any grit before I subject a razor and possibly nick it.

    I now use Wet & Dry and a marble 18X18 tile from Home Depot or a Harbor Freight Diamond 3 Hone set for around 12 bucks. They are rough, the grit is irregular, but will hog of material quickly and if you do trash them your not out much. They are great for beveling a stone. Do not put a razor to them, just stones or garden tools. Before using them I ran them on an ax to knock of any big grit.

    I finish the stone with wet & dry or just the wet & dry, if it’s not too bad, test with the pencil grid. To refresh a stone, I use wet & dry or a DMT 325 credit card Diamond Hone. The 325 also works great for a quick slurry when you want the slurry to be the same grit as the stone.

    Most of my naturals are not dead flat, it’s too much work, you are wasting good stone and you don’t need it. They are smooth though... and great finishers.

    Marty

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    I still think the DMT 325 is one of the best lapping plates out there. It also doubles up as a major edge repairer if you need one, which comes in handy surprisingly often!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil Miller View Post
    But what do you do if the lapping lapper is not lapped flat?
    Thus begins the never-ending hunt for ABSOLUTE FLAT!



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