Got the Naniwa 5,000, 8,000, and 12,000 to try my hand at honing and I was pleasantly surprised. Somewhere in the last few months I picked up 8 old razors and figured it would be cheaper to invest in the hones and do it myself. I chose two at random and they passed with flying colors. I barely felt them going over my face, and it was a heavy beard today. That's it I just wanted to gloat for a bit.