Thread: Is anyone using Okudo Suita for finishing hone?

Hello Every body I am new to this forum so if I am doing anything wrong please let me know. l.o.l.

I just got this hone ( I was told it is Okudo Suita) and wonder what would be the best way to use it as final hone perhaps after Escher.

With Nagura , no Nagura , just water? etc.

Thank you in advance for you advise.

After Escher?
interesting.
Do you really think you need edge finer then escher you own?
i have honed a lot razors and never ever had any complaining about the edge .
i finish every single of them an Escher.
you may need to spend a little more time with Escher?
gl

Strictly as a finishing stone use a diamond plate to create a light slurry. That way you are not introducing coarser particles from Nagura.

Okudo Suita can be finer than an Escher but also maybe not. Depends on the individual stones. You need to assess the scratch pattern of both of your own stones under magnification. Odds are they will be interchangeable as finishers but Suita are fast cutters & maybe a little more versatile. Have fun.

I agree that an escher could be all you need as its very keen but jnats can feel nicers to the skin so see what you think is better without being distracted by the mystique of the stone.

My jnat feels really nice on my face but my escher does feel sharper when shaving.
Could be just a preference thing!

Either way both hones take months of experience to get good at so take your time. I use nagura stones, make sure your last one is tomo nagura or use a dmt 325 plate to make mud.

WELCOME! Enjoy the forum

Let me start by saying, Beautiful Hone!!

I use an Ohira suita as a final finisher and it is the best I have used out of all of the j-nat that I have previously owned.

As to its suitability to be a final polisher, you are going to have to put it through some honing tests. It might take a few weeks to find the time to do them all but afterwards you will have a good idea as to its overall suitability.

Try it without a slurry and lots of water. Try it wilth a spritz of water and hone nearly dry. Try it with a light slurry. Try it with a medium slurry. Try it with a heavy slurry. Try it with a slurry and hone until it gets thick, then water it down with a light spritz of water; repeat as many times as it needs to gain a uniform colour to the bevel.

I have found that my suita is as excellent a finisher as anyone can get. Have fun with it. Don't rush it and flub the results and get rid of it before you know what it is capable of.

I wouldn't use any Mikawa Nagura on it as the particles may not completely wash off (getting trapped in one of the 'su' pockets).

Oh so you are the lucky owner of that very rare stone, congrats.
As mentioned above test it well and soon enough you will find out if the stone is good for razors.

You can calibrate the test so to say by finishing your razor on a hone you know gives a very good edge, for example 8k norton, or 12k Super Stone or something else. For me I know that 12k Super Stone gives me almost the edge I like, so my test is to see if the stone can improve that edge. I use slurry, no slurry, dilution , etc until I find what works best, or if the stone just does not improve the edge.

Have fun.

Thank You for all the info. Just tried my stone tonight for the first time and I love it. Feels very nice, to be honest I never had such a smooth shave before. All I did is just use soap and water and my Wapi was very happy. Seems to me like the Escher/Okudo combination works very well so far.Thanks again.

Thank you now we have to go find Okudo DARN.

Originally Posted by UrsaMaior

Hello Every body I am new to this forum so if I am doing anything wrong please let me know. l.o.l.

I just got this hone ( I was told it is Okudo Suita) and wonder what would be the best way to use it as final hone perhaps after Escher.

With Nagura , no Nagura , just water? etc.

Thank you in advance for you advise.

At this point the best advice is to audition the hone. That is
try it and shave off it.

I doubt that you want to use it after a finisher like the Escher.

You may wish to use it instead of the Escher or perhaps
alternating the two hones on a two or three week touch up
schedule to see if you have a preference.

Natural hones have natural variability so we cannot
tell from our keyboard how it fits in your honing progression.
Another consideration with natural hones is the smoothness
of the edge. They guys with microscopes scratch their
whiskers wondering why a J-nat or a coticule produces the
smooth shaves that they do yet are not as mechanically fine
grained as other hone solutions.

As far as slurry and slurry stone. For a fine finishing
hone the "best" edge is most often obtained with clear
water. Slurry tends to speed up a hone and a rubbing stone can
remove swarf and remove the varnish/ glaze/ polish that some hones
develop.

So audition the rock and see how it plays for you
and your whiskers. The only test is the shave test....

OMG what beautiful stones ZethLent! Must look away! Away! I say!


Later,
Richard