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    You guys just ruined some peoples day.
    Be careful how you treat people on your way up, you may meet them again on your way back down.

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    if you want finer than 12k , may be an Escher or a nice Jnat is worth a try.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mainaman View Post
    if you want finer than 12k , may be an Escher or a nice Jnat is worth a try.

    This is the only thing I would bother doing...

    Good advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyHAD View Post
    You guys just ruined some peoples day.

    Maybe they will save more money for beautiful stones like Eschers instead!

    ...It's all Sham's fault, I plead not guilty! LOL

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    I read somewhere that Naniwa and Shapton rate their stones differently, and in reality the 12k and 16k are virtually around the same grit. If this is true then there is likely no reason to move to the Shapton after the Naniwa.

    I do have the Naniwa 12k and have been happy with the edges I get off of it, so I took the Shapton 16 off my list of gear to buy.

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    I still find the Shapton Glass 16K comparable to the Naniwa 12K from a results stand point. Very much a personal preference when using either set up. Now, for me, the fun is still experimenting with my Escher, Asagi and Ohzuku following another finish stone and so far when doing this including differentiating with slurries and water, I haven't found enough difference in the results. I will throw my Coticules into the mix on occasion, but the buzz here is way beyond anything I can feel in the shave. Still a viable alternative. There are some definite differences following the 8K and when using pastes and sprays, but that is a story for another day........

    Have fun guys,

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    I agree I wouldn't add a Shapton 16k after a Naniwa 12k either...

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    Well what do you know! A consensus emerges, agreement!

    And I save some cash by not chasing the Shaptons....

    Sadly, it just means I have to develop even better technique on the stones I have...

    ...it's more fun to order stuff...

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    Quote Originally Posted by LawsonStone View Post
    Well what do you know! A consensus emerges, agreement!

    And I save some cash by not chasing the Shaptons....

    Sadly, it just means I have to develop even better technique on the stones I have...
    Bingo!

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    Sadly, it just means I have to develop even better technique on the stones I have
    Insightfull and wise!

    There is nothing else left to say. A GS 16k is a nice finisher, as is the Naniwa 12k.
    Both are no "ultimate" finishers, but very good ones.
    If you really wanted to add to the 12k finish (and we´re talking nuances here)
    you might have to work your way into super expensive naturals or super expensive synthetics like Shapton 30k.

    Have you tried diamond or chromium oxide on felt or linen to improve the 12k´s edge?
    Maybe that´ll do the trick and give you that last 10 per cent

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