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Thread: Menu from Morihei
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11-13-2010, 01:01 PM #1
Menu from Morihei
Today I completed second purchase from Japan, I’ve bought Ozuku Karasu from them. You can see that Karasu spots not only on the top, but also at the back of the stone. First Shoubudani mizuasagi was for knifes, and this one strictly for razors.
Also, you guys might like to see what they offered to me to choose from. I am not going to discuss prices here, just for you to see what was on the menu.
Ozuku Karasu
Stones for razors
Nakayama Jyunshin-shouhon-yama Razor (Nashiji)中山 純真正本山 レザー砥 (梨地)
Nakayama Jyunshin-shouhon-yama Razor 中山 純真正本山 レザー砥
Stones for knifes
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11-21-2010, 06:12 PM #2
My stone arrived yesterday. Tokyo-Moscow in just 5 days. As recent thread suggested, you can compare stone color to CMYK chart. (to be honest I can take a picture and show this stone in totally different color and CMYK chart with correct colors still will be there )
Haven't tried it yet, but initial feeling that stone is extremely hard and fine. Fully lapped and ready to go. Some kanji translation and information about the stones from Morihei
"大突山合砥(Ouku-yama Awasedo)---Ozuku-yama is "Higashimono". It is said that stones coming from certain quarries have generally good quality and called Higashimono. (Nakayama also belongs to this group.) Of course, not all of the "Higashimono" stones have good quality. But many good quality stones are coming from the area. "Awasedo" means finishing stone.
カラス (Karasu) ---Karasu generally means crow, a kind of bird. But it means to us, the pattern of stones just like you see on the back of the stone.
最高級品 (saikoukyuuhin)---Best quality products.
Regarding Nagura, it is not necessary to use Nagura with your Ozuku. But you do not need to keep using the Koma-nagura from beginning to the end. It would probably enough to use only at the beginning little bit (5 or 6 strokes). "
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11-21-2010, 06:13 PM #3
And some Koma Nagura
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11-21-2010, 08:10 PM #4
Would you please tell us how you got on with these hones?
Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose. Jean-Baptiste Alphonse Karr.
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11-21-2010, 08:33 PM #5
Kees My English plays some tricks on me sometimes.
If you asking how I found them, about 2 month ago I bought 2 "pretend to be Nakayama" stones off eBay. They were king of "ok", but in reality nothing special. I decided than, that I need a proper supplier. I wrote to couple of stores, looked at what they have to offer and picked one. Since than I never regret about that.
Bit if you asking how these stones perform - can't tell you yet, but this Ozuku was especially recommended to me for razors.
My Shoubudani is just amazing for knifes and works exactly as Mr Morihei said. That's works for me.
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11-21-2010, 08:35 PM #6
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Thanked: 2591nice looking stone, let us know how it performs.
Stefan
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11-21-2010, 09:23 PM #7
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11-22-2010, 01:43 PM #8
Our man in Moscow
Fantastic stones, and the seller is providing really clear photos. Higashimono means eastern stones or eastern mines.
The Nakayama kamisori toishi you have in the menu is from the current owner to the rights of the Nakayama mine, Hatanaka-san. He is from Kyoto and markets his stones through limited and selected outlets in Japan and also sells some directly from his stone boutique in Kyoto. The quality of this kamisori toishi razor stone is especially attractive and I am pretty sure that it is a Hon Suita stone with nashiji spots.
If possible I would like to see photos of the backs of any of these stones. Well Done!
AlxLast edited by alx; 11-22-2010 at 01:47 PM.
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11-22-2010, 02:02 PM #9
Sure, here it is
Nakayama jyunshin shouhonyama back
Description from them
Quarried around 1960. Little hard. This stone is specially for razor. Quality of stone is even, therefore it is easy to use.
Nakayama jyunshin shouhonyama Nashiji back
Quarried around 1960. Hard. This stone is specially for razor. Nashiji is rare pattern of stone. Nashi means pear. (because it looks like skin of pear, a fruit. Ji means pattern.) The pattern does not help or impair sharpening blade. But this is rare pattern.
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11-22-2010, 02:12 PM #10
This looks like a really sweet and pure stone and I bet it is fast cutting too. There is not substitute for quality. Have fun with those beauties. And thanks for the view of the backs, typical Nakayama. stay warm, Alx