Thread: Gokumyo #10 000

I'd also like to mention that the stamps on the sides of the Naniwa Choseras state that the hones should not be left soaking in water for long periods of time (i.e. more than 1 hr.) because the hone could deform.

The Gokumyo, on the other hand states that no mater how long you soak it, it will never deform. This is one you can leave in a honing pond even in between honing sessions.

I think I have found a synthetic equivalent to my J-Nat finishing hone in this Gokumyo. I'll have to make a visit to Morihei to see if something he has will up this one.

Arrggghhh! Thanks a heap you guys! HAD is back!

Originally Posted by ZethLent

I think I have found a synthetic equivalent to my J-Nat finishing hone in this Gokumyo. I'll have to make a visit to Morihei to see if something he has will up this one.

would you clarify above statement?
do you mean this synthetic stone(Gokumyo 10000) is equivalent to your natural Japanese 30000+ finishing hone?

Originally Posted by hi_bud_gl

would you clarify above statement?
do you mean this synthetic stone(Gokumyo 10000) is equivalent to your natural Japanese 30000+ finishing hone?

That "30000" natural finisher is a nonsense number, based only on what people feel on their face. It has no relationship whatsoever to real size of the particles.

Kyoto awaseto have particles that range in size from 1-3 microns...so if you want to put a grit number on your Japanese finishing hone, call it an 8k.

If, on the other hand, you are only judging a hone by the feeling, then just call it a finisher--that's what the guys who've been dealing with hones for the last couple of centuries have done.

So if this hone is a good finisher, it's a good finisher, regardless of the (mostly meaningless) particle size.

Originally Posted by hi_bud_gl

would you clarify above statement?
do you mean this synthetic stone(Gokumyo 10000) is equivalent to your natural Japanese 30000+ finishing hone?

Yes.

That is how it has been feeling for quite a number of shaves now.

Originally Posted by ZethLent

Yes.

That is how it has been feeling for quite a number of shaves now.

this one should be twice as good as then?

?? ????? GMN200??20000? - ??????

Originally Posted by hi_bud_gl

this one should be twice as good as then?

?? ????? GMN200??20000? - ??????

Sham it just might. Talk to A_S he has one and thinks it is an excellent stone. When I spoke to him last year in March he had already honed 1000 razors on it.

Originally Posted by hi_bud_gl

this one should be twice as good as then?

?? ????? GMN200??20000? - ??????

My limited experience with this stone says no.
I compared it to my Nakayama Kiita and wasn´t able to tell a real difference.
It gives a good edge, but I hardly can imagine any better edge than what I get from my
Nakayama or Shapton 30k. I would say it´s another one in that league,
but certainly no better (is it even possible?!)

I have Nakayama (yellow) and I have a 15K stone, which overhones my razors. Then what for is 30K?