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12-25-2010, 01:32 AM #1
Please Help; Get to/need to replace my stones. Unique application
I sharpen high-end salon shears, as well as clipper blades and knives. Wednesday morning my truck, along with most my sharpening stuff, was stolen. Among a long list of tools my Shapton GS 1k,4k,8k, & 16k now need replaced.
I bought them for razors, and they worked well for shears but they are the only "professional" level hones I've worked with aside from DMTs which are a whole different animal. I was happy in terms on cutting speed, hardness (dishing-resistance), and finish quality but they did glaze over very quickly with the amount of pressure I use to work the inside ride line of shears. I've heard it said it takes a minimum of 10-12# pressure. All I know is that it's at least that much. Many guys are using the Shapton Pro stones, some are using Naniwas Green 6000grit Diamond hone. They do need to remain pretty flat, and I don't have sink to work out of. I suppose I could do a small stone pond with my mobile in-salon setup.
For guys that have used the GS, Pro Stones, Super Stones and Choseras how do they rank in dishing and glazing tendencies? Not opposed to repurchasing the GS, but I hear so much good about finishing qualities of the SS and Choseras...and hate using my DMT to de-glaze after 2 or 3 shears.
I'm not concerned about going up to only 12K instead of 16K, yet at the same time we are talking about tools that will easily pop hair off your arm.
Thank You very much any experience you guys can share....and....
MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!
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12-25-2010, 02:18 AM #2
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Thanked: 4942Looks like you're in my neck of the woods. Feel free to come over and test out all the stones mentioned and compare to the Shapton GS.
Have fun,
Lynn
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12-25-2010, 08:50 PM #3
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Thanked: 2209Take Lynn up on his offer, he has more experience with hones than anyone I know of.
Randolph Tuttle, a SRP Mentor for residents of Minnesota & western Wisconsin
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12-25-2010, 08:55 PM #4
Lynn, that's extremely generous. You'll a little less than 2 hours away. After the dust settles from the all the holidays I'll try to get in touch you. I'll also need to see what homeowners insurance says about the whole ordeal.
Would still love to hear comparisons on the stones with these things in mind though. SRP has enough on each of those stones to make your eyes go crossed but razor folks generally care about finish quality and cutting speed about all else...and this forum takes a look from a slightly different perspective.
Hope you guys don't have TOO white of a Christmas!!
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12-25-2010, 09:13 PM #5
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Thanked: 443Wow, Soilarch, sorry to hear of your loss! Were any of your stones marked in any way? We've got eyes all over the web, many of them ogling hones.
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12-26-2010, 04:46 AM #6
My eyes could tell the from the way I knock corners off the stones with my DMT. Only thing that would raise suspicion to others is that under close inspection I do NOT take the same about off both the right and left ledge. i.e. on ledge has a noticeably larger bevel on it.
If you see an 8K or 16K with a faint red or orange diangle line left by using a sharpie on the bevel, it would most certainly be mine.
I'm from a town of 10,000...you have to drive an hour to get into anything that might be considered urban by most on these boards...I doubt anyone in this COUNTY has ever seen a Shapton GS. They didn't take the truck for the goods. They just wanted a free ride. Cops recovered a vehicle that had been reported stolen that same morning...about 200 yards from my driveway.
They'll know to pawn my $1,000 Stihl MS460...but the toolbox and most of it's contents will have 'em stumped. (And it's value is equal to the truck lol!
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12-26-2010, 06:26 AM #7
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Thanked: 25I think if you're comfortable with the Shaptons you should stick with them. As for glazing, you might try a DMT extra fine (1200) pocket hone. This is what I use to raise slurry on all the stones I use with slurry. I think this would deglaze quickly, and would cause minimal damage to your stones.
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12-26-2010, 06:33 AM #8
Thief got a tool box out of my truck 25 years ago in NYC. I had an accumulation of tools from 20 years of doing ironwork. Some of the tools had been given to me by old timers when I was an apprentice. I could replace some of the tools but not those with sentimental value. Damn all thieves to hell.
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