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12-28-2010, 06:21 PM #1
Hey Jimmy, not trying to solicit anything. Just wondering what the market for coties has done in the past couple years is all. Didn't interpret the rules to mean that asking what the market has done is a no-no.
Your post seems like I upset you with what I said. Certainly wasn't my intention.
I'll just do some reading, and avoid posting stuff from now on.
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12-28-2010, 06:25 PM #2
My bad for not sending you a PM instead of posting publicly. I don't doubt that selling your coticules was not your intention. OTOH, your post could have been interpreted as looking for a buyer for your coticules. That was the point of my previous reply. Feel free to post FP and glad to see you back around.
Be careful how you treat people on your way up, you may meet them again on your way back down.
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12-28-2010, 07:13 PM #3
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Thanked: 1195Hey FloorPizza, it has been awhile! I guess you missed the Naniwa craze then? Yes, they've gained a solid reputation for being good hones at great prices. Many members have the entire line and use them as a system without complaint. You could certainly do worse.
Be well,
Ryan
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FloorPizza (12-30-2010)
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12-30-2010, 12:35 AM #4
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Thanked: 8My naniwa 220 cuts much faster than my shapton 220. However, neither one of them are fast compared to my sigma SiC water stone or norton crystelon, but you are looking for stones starting at 1k. My understanding of the superstones in higher grits is that they cut more slowly than other options, but leave a highly polished edge.
Lately, I've been trying some of the stones recommended on the tools from japan blog and store. So far, his analysis of japanese water stone properties has been accurate. The king neo 800 grit, naniwa chosera 1k and sigma power select 2 are reported to be the fasted stones in the 1k range. When my shapton 1k wears out, or I have the money, I plan on trying a king neo. I also use a shapton 4k and 8k, but I plan on replacing both the them with a sigma 8k, as it cuts so aggressively you can jump from 1k to 8k. Right now I go from the 8k shapton to a pasted strop, but I'd like to add a kitayama 8k as a final polishing stone.
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FloorPizza (12-30-2010)
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12-30-2010, 12:41 AM #5
The Naniwas are great in the higher grits, and they cut very quickly, but I find the 1K range is far too soft-- it dishes too quickly, and just doesn't set bevels well. I think maybe a Norton, Chosera, or Shapton 1K and then a 5k-8k-12k Naniwa set would do very well for you.
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FloorPizza (12-30-2010)
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12-30-2010, 07:00 AM #6
Thanks for all the info, Gents, much appreciated. Leaning toward getting the 1k in Chosera form, then getting the rest of the Super Stone line up. Especially if the Chosera 1k is one of the fastest around... it takes me forever to set bevels.
That was one of the things I didn't like about my Shapton 1k... it took *forever* to set a bevel with the thing. The speed of the stone sucked, but the quality of the bevel was sa-weet.
Honestly, I'd be willing to spend the most money at the 1k level than any other hone. Dreaming about a 1k stone that would set bevels with no microchips in even the most brittle stainless steel very quickly. I've always kinda felt like the 1k stone really was the foundation that the rest of the edge was based on, and a really good bevel setter is a necessity.
Thanks again, Gents, much appreciated.
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12-30-2010, 08:27 AM #7
Hey FP & welcome back.
Shame your DMT's are MIA. Don't get any faster & flatter than diamond plates for restore work. Tho the microchipping can be an issue with some razors. I usually swap out to my Shaptons GS after the DMT's. Don't find speed an issue with the Shaps but honing style could play a part. Hard to avoid some microchipping on the coarser stones but the next stone in line should deal with it. Good luck with whatever your choice“The white gleam of swords, not the black ink of books, clears doubts and uncertainties and bleak outlooks.”
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