I'm in agreement with hi_bud_gl. I would recommend the Chosera 1k as the bevel setter since I hear it is really fast and it is so thick it will last beyond a lifetime unless you're Lynn honing a thousand razors a year. I love the Norton 4/8 combo or the same in the 1" thick single grits. You can get the Chosera from Chef's Knives To Go and the Norton from SRD.