Thread: coticule question

Originally Posted by no1slacker

would a hybrid side of a different layer then les latnueses still be usable? specifically la veinette.


thanks,


Peter B.

Hybrids do work very well they are called les latneusess. One side is creamy as usaul and the other resembles multi colours. the la vainette is a bbw/coti combo. I never hardly use the bbw side . i use hybrid side regular. I like the la vainette yellow side it very nice coticule. may be be better for you and just learn to use the yellow side.

Originally Posted by altshaver

no1slacker, what makes you think this hone is from the La Veinette vein? From what I have read, La Veinette Coticules usually are natural combination stones with a BBW side. Could you post a picture of your "hybrid" side?

I contacted Ardenes looking for a Les Latnuesess and Maurice offered this stone and said it was La Veinette with a hybrid side but only sent a pic of the coticule side. After much thought I bought it anyway. Figured if the hybrid side is not usable at least La Veinette is. I will let ya know in 3 to 4 weeks when it is received.

AFAIK, any layer can be a combo (hybrid). I have a La Veinette that is backed w BBW.

From the picture early in this thread it looks like a natural hybrid combo. I do not want or need bbw. just hope hybrid turns out to be serviceable.

Originally Posted by janivar123

In a hybrid layer there is a cerain chanse of bad inclusions, if it dont suffer from that chanses are good...

And why exactly is that?

Originally Posted by hi_bud_gl

BBW never been used as a sharpening purposes until recently People find out it can be used.
Now if you figure out bbw is useless then next one will be same to you.
To me it is useless too but so many people loves it and enjoy using it.
Some people even shave off from bbw.
hope this helps.

Sham, since you've brought that up, you might want to read this thoroughly. But let's not discuss it more in this thread, that's quite an off-topic.

regards,
Matt

Originally Posted by no1slacker

I contacted Ardenes looking for a Les Latnuesess and Maurice offered this stone and said it was La Veinette with a hybrid side but only sent a pic of the coticule side. After much thought I bought it anyway. Figured if the hybrid side is not usable at least La Veinette is. I will let ya know in 3 to 4 weeks when it is received.

If Maurice says it's so, then I would bet it is so.

Les Latneuses, itself, is a three layer vein. It comprises of two coticule layers that sandwich a "hybrid" layer. The "hybrid" layer was named so because it was believed to be a mixture of yellow coticule and Belgian Blue Whetstone. It is now believed to be something different. The two yellow coticule layers of this vein have slightly different characteristics according to those in the know. The yellow coticule layer most identified with this vein is considered very fast as far as coticules go. That layer is said to give a "brisk" edge. The other yellow coticule layer of this vein is fast, but noticeably slower than the other yellow coticule layer. The edge from this layer of the vein is said to be "mellow." To confuse things even more, some Les Latneuses coticules are glued to slate without the hybrid side intact. I wonder if a La Veinette vein naturally met up with a Les Latneuses vein somehow.

If you do actually receive a La Veinette, you will be getting a popular vein of coticule. That said, all veins of coticules are said to provide excellent edges. The differences are mostly for the connoisseurs. Maurice is also very good a picking out hones that straight razor sharpeners will like, so you are in good hands. I, still, have only read of La Veinette cotiucles being natural coticule/BBW stones, though. I might ask the guys on Coticule.be about this; however, there are very knowledgeable people here that will be able to help.

For honing on the hybrid side, you will want to talk to Gary. He really was the pioneer for honing on the hybrid side of the Les Latneuses vein of coticule.

I hope you enjoy your stone.

Originally Posted by pcb01

AFAIK, any layer can be a combo (hybrid). I have a La Veinette that is backed w BBW.

A "hybrid" layer does not refer to a natural combination Coticule/BBW hone. A hybrid layer is different. To my knowledge, only the Les Latneuses vein produces natural combination stones that are Coticule/Hybrid hones.

Here is a thread that shows pictures of a Les Latneuses stone:

Vault n°51 - home of the famous Belgian Coticule Whetstone

Thanks for all the info about the Les Latneuses hybrids. I was trying to get one but they are a hot item. Maurice is awesome! Tho he never sent a picture of the hybrid side as requested. First I heard of a hybrid from any other layers than Les Latneuses. guess I will be the lab rat on this one.
Man this is going to be a long wait. thanks again Altshave.


Peter B.