Honing Advice Joh. Engstrom Eskilstuna

**dsg10715** · 03-06-2011, 01:24 PM

Hello - I am a beginner honer but have had success with a number of Ebay specials including a Dbl Duck, a few Fox's which I love, a Black Demon and a Boker.

I bought a Joh. Engstrom Frameback with Dannemora-Gjhtstal engraved on the spine and have been having a heck of a time getting this arm hair snapping sharp.

I have a Naniwa set of 1K, 3/8K combo and have a few good barber hones I use upon finishing.

I think I set the bevel right and have been using pyramids to try and get this baby in shape and while it's sharp - it's not beard incinerating sharp. Has anyone dealt with this particular razor? Are framebacks not for the faint of honing heart? Any advice would be great. I know I could send this to an expert to hone it up but I bought a bunch of Ebay razors over time so I could learn to hone without destroying an expensive piece and have done okay so far and this is a brick wall for me.

**eleblu05** · 03-06-2011, 01:42 PM

if your not cutting arm hair off the 1k dont go any further i dont move off the 1k until i can cut arm hair by running the blade across it ( not at skin level ,above )

**hi_bud_gl** · 03-06-2011, 01:53 PM

last picture shows you have bevel.
Now take pressure off and make 50 strokes.
then move to 3k and make 50 strokes . check the edge ?
Any improvements or not?
gl

**nun2sharp** · 03-06-2011, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by hi_bud_gl

last picture shows you have bevel.
Now take pressure off and make 50 strokes.
then move to 3k and make 50 strokes . check the edge ?
Any improvements or not?
gl

Do this, the bevel looked perfect in the pics.

**gssixgun** · 03-06-2011, 02:19 PM

You are using almost the same progression I use on those razors
Naniwa 1-3-8 then I finish them off on believe it or not the Chinese 12k or PHIG
Gives them a really nice smooth edge..

I think Sham is dead on with his advice too

**dsg10715** · 03-06-2011, 04:11 PM

Followed advice....not snapping arm hairs yet. Moved to a 3K and 8K back and forth....I *guess* my strokes are good since I think I set a clean bevel and don't lift the blade. Still can't snap hairs and have done several hundred strokes today. This one is a stumper

Originally Posted by hi_bud_gl

last picture shows you have bevel.
Now take pressure off and make 50 strokes.
then move to 3k and make 50 strokes . check the edge ?
Any improvements or not?
gl

**rjezuit** · 03-06-2011, 04:28 PM

Light pressure.let the blade glide across the stone like its barely cutting.

**Kees** · 03-06-2011, 05:58 PM

How about the bevel marking test? Is the bevel in touch with the hone along its entire length on both sides of the blade?

**hi_bud_gl** · 03-06-2011, 07:55 PM

Ok now we will need to go back to 1k and make more strokes.
i think you stuck with hard steel.
stay on 1 k until you will cut the arm hair.
then you move up to 3k.
let us know what happens

**dsg10715** · 03-06-2011, 07:56 PM

I am about to throw it out the window. Should it snap arm hairs or just cut hair when I shave my arm?

Originally Posted by hi_bud_gl

Ok now we will need to go back to 1k and make more strokes.
i think you stuck with hard steel.
stay on 1 k until you will cut the arm hair.
then you move up to 3k.
let us know what happens

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