Thread: Dedicated Bevel Setting ....

yeah the boker 1k does a good job but it is soft and will dish after every razor i do on that boker and before i start on another razor i flaten the stone and there is always some dishing but for 20 you cant beat it imho

You refer to the Naniwa and Shapton as not quite "dedicated" bevel-setters, but instead a part of their respective "systems". How do you distinguish between the two different needs? If a 1K stone isn't a dedicated bevel-setter, then what is it good for exactly? Aren't all 1k stones designed for dedicated bevel-setting (when used with a razor, not a kitchen knife, of course?) And how can a Chosera be considered a "dedicated" bevel-setter, when the SS isn't?

Originally Posted by MarkinLondon

You refer to the Naniwa and Shapton as not quite "dedicated" bevel-setters, but instead a part of their respective "systems". How do you distinguish between the two different needs? If a 1K stone isn't a dedicated bevel-setter, then what is it good for exactly? Aren't all 1k stones designed for dedicated bevel-setting (when used with a razor, not a kitchen knife, of course?) And how can a Chosera be considered a "dedicated" bevel-setter, when the SS isn't?

The difference is use, it really depends on your personal use factors, if you read that last few sentences of the original post you will see what I mean...

Most people on the forum most likely don't need a "Dedicated" bevel setter...

As to the Chosera -vs SS
The Chosera is just "Mo Better" it is every thing the SS is only more so, bigger, more cutting power, harder, do most people need a $100 bevel setter ???? probably not...

BUT

Lets say you are a Coticule fan or a One Stone Hone fan or even a J-nat/Nagura progresion fan then I doubt there a better stone to start those systems with than the Chosera....

It is all perspective

$100 bevel setter

Seriuosly? 100 Bucks??? I paid for my 25mm version 35€... may this be the first time living in Germany pays off?!

The Chosera 1k really is very good. Especially for kitchen knives and heavy to medium repair on Str8s.
Slurried with the little nagura it cuts very good...

The Superstone 1k I found to be a little but too rubber-like, but it was 100% a personal thing. The performance was great.
If the choser hadn´t only been 10 Bucks more for me, I would have never switched.

The Shapton 1k I like very much but, agreed, only as part of the whole shapton system

Good informational post, bevelsetting is so crucial!

What vendor did you buy it from? You know if they ship to the States?

SRD has the Chosera 1k for $85.95, with shipping it's $93.85.
Shipping for orders over $100 is free, so if you found some soap or something that you wanted as well, you could bump that over $100 and save the shipping fee.

Originally Posted by HNSB

SRD has the Chosera 1k for $85.95, with shipping it's $93.85.
Shipping for orders over $100 is free, so if you found some soap or something that you wanted as well, you could bump that over $100 and save the shipping fee.

It's like you're spying on me! I just put in an order at SRD last night for the Chosera 1k (I really dislike setting bevels, and $86 bucks is well worth a faster set to me), some Tobac soap, and Woolsfat soap. I of course justified the soap by telling myself it would bump me over $100 for free shipping...

I just finished testing the Naniwa Chosera 1K, Shapton Pro 1K & Shapton Glass 1k, Naniwa 1K and Norton 1K.
I used a slurry on all the hones and tested using German full hollow ground razors.

To me, the Chosera is the fastest cutting of the above hones. I rank their performance in the order listed above.

The DMT 1200 cuts faster but it will also wear out much faster than the Chosera. The Chosera gives you more bang for the buck. It will last much longer than the DMT 1200.

This hone is really not necessary for the average user, any of the above will be adequate. But for a person honing a bunch of razors the Chosera is excellent.....til a better one comes along!

Advice needed:

My actual hone setup is this:

325&1200 DMT, Norton 4k/8k or Naniwa 5k and 8k (will buy them soon), naniwa 12k or cotis or boxed thuri. I am honing 1-3 razors a week on average, but the number is slowly increasing I have found that I don't like my DMT 1200 too much, because it is so agressive, and because of the deep scratches it leaves. A do restores frequently, so it is not uncommon that I have to start on the 325. What stone would you advice buying? Most likely I will sell my DMT after it, and have only one bevel setter. Please help me decide if you can, any opinions are welcome!