Thread: Chinese Hone

Let's see now. C12K ~ $30.00, Escher ~ $400-500. It's like comparing a Ferrari to a Vega, in price, but not performance. Is the Escher 12-15X a better finisher? Is it 12-15X faster. I have a thuringian, don't know if its an Escher, because no label, and I picked up a C12K just to compare. The Escher leaves a fine finish as does the thuri, but MUCH faster.

What is performance like between the 2?
Some Thuringians are as good if not better than the Eschers I have used. Some are definitely inferior.

Well I'm not taken by HAD. I only have just the amount of stones I need to put a respectable edge on my razors. My stones will eventually be replaced with better quality I'm sure, but for now they do the job just fine. I have, as my finishing stone, a C12k (What does PHIG mean by the way?) that was (stupidly) ordered from Classic razor.com (I later found I could have got one cheaper locally). The C12k does a fine job on producing a smooth finished edge. I have never tried any other stones though, so my experience is simply that of someone who has the tools for the job, and just what is required to maintain those tools in working order.


Mick

PHIG = People's Hone (of) Invariable Grit (Holli4Pirating, 2009)

I have never honed on a certified Escher, but the thuri I have is a fine finisher. I cannot compare the edge to anything else but the C12K, and they are similar, with the thuri being definately a faster stone.I believe it is Peoples Hone of Indeterminate Grit. Just like any other natural stone, you cannot determine the grit, only how it hones in comparison to a synthetic of similar grade and grit.

Originally Posted by Scipio

PHIG = People's Hone (of) Invariable Grit (Holli4Pirating, 2009)

I believe that name actually was coined by Ron/Utopian as PHIG = People's Hone of Indeterminate Grit)

I can search out the thread but I remember him on a tirade as to why we call it a 12k when we call no other Natural by a grit rating

Just saying..

Considering price factor I would call Cninese a PH - people's hone.

Originally Posted by gssixgun

I believe that name actually was coined by Ron/Utopian as PHIG = People's Hone of Indeterminate Grit)

I can search out the thread but I remember him on a tirade as to why we call it a 12k when we call no other Natural by a grit rating

Just saying..

My bad, I thought it was Dilan who named it. Sorry folks. It was definitely not invariable, thats actually contradictory!

Trust me Maurice I could be wrong too it has happened before I just rarely like to admit it hehehe

Now I guess I am going to have to go look though or it will bug me hehehe

Wanna bet Ben/Slarti or Lee/Hoglahoo beat me to it though

Originally Posted by rjezuit

Let's see now. C12K ~ $30.00, Escher ~ $400-500. It's like comparing a Ferrari to a Vega, in price, but not performance. Is the Escher 12-15X a better finisher? Is it 12-15X faster. I have a thuringian, don't know if its an Escher, because no label, and I picked up a C12K just to compare. The Escher leaves a fine finish as does the thuri, but MUCH faster.

+1
Exactly... one thing missing in the C12K equation is a worthy lap to set it flat the first time.
I say worthy because a C12K is hard and will eat a DMT for an expensive lunch depending
on the DMT.