Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 19
Like Tree3Likes

Thread: My Moldy Mistake

  1. #1
    Senior Member deighaingeal's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    Yakima, Wa
    Posts
    1,955
    Thanked: 494

    Default My Moldy Mistake

    I know that this was stupid, but hindsight is 20/20.

    I was honing the other day when I got a call that sent me out of the house in a rush. I usually leave my hones out for a day or two after honing to reduce the moisture content a little before I pack them in my briefcase (yes they are literally locked away), this day I chose to put them away, I have no idea why. With a busy couple of days and a busy weekend I couldn't hone again until Sunday. I pulled out my japanese, my german, green shrimp and finally the SS. That's when I noticed damp boxes, my heart quickly sank. When I opened them I had mold on my 8k and 12k. I tried just lapping through them to no end. My shoulders were already sore from lapping my new super hard Oozuku so I had the wife scrub them with bleach water to kill the mold and I went ahead and lapped them again. I ran a cheap razor across them and could definitely feel the mold. It felt rougher than the rest of the hone and I was sure it hurt my edge. What was amazing is that the edge was perfect after a complete honing. No signs of edge damage and this razor shaved smooth as any other.
    Should I worry about the fact that I can still feel the mold?
    Is the Naniwa SS porous enough to allow deep mold growth?
    And does anyone else want to slap me for doing something so stupid?

    On the plus side after my arms fell off I got to learn what you japanese stone guys call a hard polisher, holy cow.

  2. The Following User Says Thank You to deighaingeal For This Useful Post:

    tinkersd (05-18-2011)

  3. #2
    Senior Member blabbermouth hi_bud_gl's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Posts
    4,521
    Thanked: 1636

    Default

    Keep them dry they should be ok.

  4. The Following User Says Thank You to hi_bud_gl For This Useful Post:

    deighaingeal (05-17-2011)

  5. #3
    illegitimum non carborundum Utopian's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    Rochester, MN
    Posts
    11,544
    Thanked: 3795
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by deighaingeal View Post
    And does anyone else want to slap me for doing something so stupid?
    No, but I am willing to slap you if you have not repeatedly soaked the bleached hones in fresh water to remove all traces of the bleach from your hone. Do you recall what bleach does to steel?

    Quote Originally Posted by hi_bud_gl View Post
    Keep them dry they should be ok.
    Agreed. That's all it will take.
    tekbow likes this.

  6. The Following User Says Thank You to Utopian For This Useful Post:

    deighaingeal (05-17-2011)

  7. #4
    Senior Member blabbermouth
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Portland, OR
    Posts
    2,697
    Thanked: 830
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default

    Gerrit, thank you.

    You've probably saved me from another mistake. If there's one to be made, I'll find it. If its expensive, I'll probably do it twice.

    'Sorry for your heartburn, but glad the edges came out alright.

    One of my better ones was destroying a dmt 8E by trying to lap an Arkansas stone. Sigh. Hello SRD? do you have another in stock? Good.
    Geezer likes this.

  8. The Following User Says Thank You to pinklather For This Useful Post:

    deighaingeal (05-17-2011)

  9. #5
    Senior Member deighaingeal's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    Yakima, Wa
    Posts
    1,955
    Thanked: 494

    Default

    Yes Ron I did leave the stones under running water for quite a while, but only because the smell of bleach drives me nuts. I really don't think the small amount of bleach my wife used would leave enough remaining in the hones to corrode the steel a noticeable amount before I oiled the blade. As I said the smell of bleach bothers me (great for a med student) in a response she dilutes it a bit before use.

    Thank you Sham.

    Pinklather, you are not the only one to make every possible mistake. I'm pretty good at realizing a newb mistake and making a whole set of new ones. Making a search of this topic I found a number of threads about norton soaking. That's what sent me to using bleach, Glen mentioned that he uses it in his hone soaking pond since his hones soak all of the time that they aren't on the road.

  10. #6
    what Dad calls me nun2sharp's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Kansas city area USA
    Posts
    9,172
    Thanked: 1677

    Default

    moldy hones = smooth shave, a stropping effect while honing, you could be onto something.

    Just joking, I am glad it has worked out.
    It is easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled. Twain

  11. #7
    Senior Member deighaingeal's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    Yakima, Wa
    Posts
    1,955
    Thanked: 494

    Default

    Hmm. Interesting concept. Maybe I should take one of my Oozuku (since I now have two) to my research lab and have a party with a fungi (sorry bad biology joke). Then I could perform some backhoning on it with a tomonagura slurry, or would I just rub some lichen to make the slurry. I could then try different assortments of fungal colonies to see what works and I'll sell "Biological stropping media".


  12. #8
    Senior Member str8fencer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    Oslo Norway
    Posts
    1,848
    Thanked: 438

    Default

    Just a random thought: Both vinegar and baking soda have some mold killing properties. Also, while each not being 100% efficient, they do overlap.

    Note: This is NOT a recommendation to use neither baking soda nor vinegar on hones! On the other hand, it would seem a safer choice than bleach by a long shot.

    Perhaps some of the chemically inclined could ponder the potential hazards of using said agents on hones?

  13. #9
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    Lancaster, NY
    Posts
    129
    Thanked: 26

    Default

    If these are naturals, these are rocks. Molds and fungus grow on rocks. Rocks are mined in quarries. Quarries are wet and damp. Perfect place for mold and fungus. I would not worry about it if they hone well.

  14. #10
    Senior Member deighaingeal's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    Yakima, Wa
    Posts
    1,955
    Thanked: 494

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by rjezuit View Post
    If these are naturals, these are rocks. Molds and fungus grow on rocks. Rocks are mined in quarries. Quarries are wet and damp. Perfect place for mold and fungus. I would not worry about it if they hone well.
    Quoth the raven, "Naniwa".

    You do bring up an interesting thought though. The naturals are bound to have a mold spot on the from time to time, but I've never seen a "new" one with this, is there a chance that mold would break down the binders (could be aesthetics) and as such would the molds encountered here be able to break down what I assume are polymer binders in the naniwa?

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •