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  1. 01-23-2016, 01:38 AM #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Utopian View Post
    I'm not sure I agree. I just shot this photo of the two.
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    Shows what I know. So anyway, both are as I described the 12k to be. I only have a 12k and a 1k, so am remembering other's hones at meets in years past. Badly!
    ANYWAY, a good, properly-lapped 10k should outperform a spiky, needs-to-be-lapped 12k.
    That!
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    I rest my case.
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    Just to beat the point to death, my 8k, 5k, 3k, and 2k have similar spots.
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    Dammitt! I am a 4/8 Norton guy! What do I know?

    So. unequivocally, I can positively say my old, blue, 1k has no such 'spots'!
    Sort of a 'swarm' of swarf in it! I digress.....
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    Not to keep picking on you but...

    Oh what the heck...

    It DOES have spots, but I will concede that they don't look like the spots of the higher grit hones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Utopian View Post
    Not to keep picking on you but...

    Oh what the heck...

    It DOES have spots, but I will concede that they don't look like the spots of the higher grit hones.
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    THAT is the 'swarm of swarf' I was (finally) alluding to! NOT DOTS! On my 1k. Right there......Geeeze!
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    OK, but but that ain't swarf, it's hone!
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    Ok....It's swarmy abrasive within the hone, integral to it, yet an integral part of the hone.. As it were.
    I digress again!

    Funny, but my statement of the obviously dark inclusions in these hones are that they are indeed the hardest part.
    For my finale, I would advise to lap your Naniwas!
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    saying your not supposed to lap the 12k is insane, in fact most super stones come with a resin layer over them from naniwa and need to be lapped to work properly. I am kind of a stickler about hones, I do use my naniwa 2k green brick in the progression, but it is very similar to super stones. I don't like substituting my glass stone into the super stones if I can help it, perhaps I won't need it. I'm getting pretty comfy shaves off my 10k then to compounds, but I feel like I needed something just a bit extra.
    Maybe i'm just being crazy but I have a huge collection of stones anyway, i'll find a use for the 12k and the 10k if not for razors, for wood working tools or knive bevels : )
    Thanks for the info guys!
    Euclid, the 8k shapton is very similar to the 8k super stone in terms of grit level I take it then? Thanks bud
    I do however feel as though the "loading" is partly why super stones polish so well, they burnish! For regular grinding and doing pocket knives/chisels they are terrible stones. They do touch up kitchen knives quite nicely tho
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    This thread has turned into yet another reminder that our craft is made of tradition, legend, art, science, engineering, common sense, experience, opinion, myth and misconception.
    We must walk the path gently and with an open mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glytch5 View Post
    saying your not supposed to lap the 12k is insane,
    No one said that.
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