Thread: C12K with nagura instead of asagi with nagura?

Hmm like stefan told you they are all different but mine i guess is lv 3 out of 5, but i have to say it is not as fine as Jnat lv 3

Originally Posted by SharpMan

Good to hear Stefan.

Where did you buy yours? Can you compare your C12k to your very good japanese
naturals. I mean the C12K is so much more expensive, but I have read that if you
get a good one and use it correctly it is about 20K.

Sharpman

I got mine from Woodcraft, but no there is no comparison with my current Jnats.

Originally Posted by maxim207

Hmm like stefan told you they are all different but mine i guess is lv 3 out of 5, but i have to say it is not as fine as Jnat lv 3

That is strange. So many people comment that it is a really hard stone.
Either you got a softer stone or the very hard Japanese stones are
much harder. Maybe Stefan can comment on this.

Sharpman

Originally Posted by SharpMan

That is strange. So many people comment that it is a really hard stone.
Either you got a softer stone or the very hard Japanese stones are
much harder. Maybe Stefan can comment on this.

Sharpman

people that have never seen a really had Jnat will say a c12k is hard, but if you can compare side by side you will see the difference.

Originally Posted by mainaman

I got mine from Woodcraft, but no there is no comparison with my current Jnats.

Stefan, could you explain in more detail? Hardness, finess, honing sensation, with
or without nagura?

Thanks.

Sharpman.

Originally Posted by SharpMan

Stefan, could you explain in more detail? Hardness, finess, honing sensation, with
or without nagura?

Thanks.

Sharpman.

I sold it a while a go.

Originally Posted by SharpMan

Hi Richard,

No, I mainly sharpen plane blades. I use stanleys, not wooden.

Thanks for the information. Have you tried sharpening plane blades on your asagi
with nagura? If yes, what were the results compared to the ohira?

Sharpman

I know this is off topic but.....I am using Lee-Valley bevel up planes. When I said, wood, I was speaking of planes that are used for wood. Well anyway I have not seen a need to go to the Asagi. After using Naguras on the Ohira the slurry from the Ohira stone is very fine and probably in the 15-20K range. I spray 0.125 CBN on the Ohira and finish with that. I don't like using my very expensive Asagi for plane irons, it wouldn't hurt it but I don't care for the idea.

When honing razors I finish using my Asagi with slurry then with just water. I would put the final finish well over 30K and that is a guess but I used to have a 30K and the scratch pattern is even finer than that. It is a very hard and at the same time fast cutting. With just water is feels velvety smooth like a Coticule so I have strong feelings for my Asagi.

I find that razor honing greatly increased my skill for plane iron honing and the rocks used are about the same but not quite as fine. It really is not needed. I am getting 0.0015 ribbon shavings out of my plane and to polish any more than that is not time efficient.

Hope that helps,
Richard