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07-24-2011, 11:58 PM #1
DMT-E diamond hone--need clarification!
Apologies for a beginner's question. One of the Wiki honing articles recommends using a DMT-E diamond hone. DMT does not appear to currently sell such a stone. Or perhaps I'm missing something. Could someone clarify which DMT product this is? Thanks.
Pat
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07-25-2011, 12:50 AM #2
I believe DMT uses one E for fine and EE for their newer 8k stone.
Yes they go Fine, then E fine and the EE fine for 8k. The E is 1.2K gritLast edited by Kingfish; 07-25-2011 at 12:54 AM.
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07-25-2011, 03:27 AM #3
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Thanked: 1936Kingfish is right on.
I'm not sure which article you are reading, but most of us DO NOT recommend using diamond stones for honing. Most of us use diamond stones for razor repair, lapping stones, & generating slurry. Diamond stones are prone to cause micro-chipping to the bevel that you are trying to set. Waterstones , naturals & synthetic, is all I & most others use when it comes to honing.Southeastern Oklahoma/Northeastern Texas helper. Please don't hesitate to contact me.
Thank you and God Bless, Scott
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07-25-2011, 10:56 AM #4
The E is supposed to be Extra Fine, which is DMTs #1.200.
They carry extra extra coarse (EEC), extra coarse (EC), coarse (C), fine (F), extra fine (EF), extra extra fine (EEF)
As already mentioned the DMTs are workhorses and leave an agressive finish and scratch pattern for their respective grit.
This of course can be advantageous if much work needs to be done, like repair of major nicks and damage.
The DMT up to the Fine can be used for lapping Waterstones of higher or equal grit to 1.000 (coarser, or extremely hard Waterstones may destroy the DMT)
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07-25-2011, 11:41 AM #5
Thanks for all the comments. I think I'll stick to my 1000/4000 waterstone!
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07-25-2011, 11:47 AM #6
A 1.000/4.000 combination stone of good quality will do the job for a bevelset, but you will not be able to shave off it comfortably.
Why don´t you say what you are going to do with your stones, what are you trying to accomplish?
What brand is your 1k/4k stone and what else do you have?
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07-25-2011, 11:54 AM #7
My current 1k/4k is a Lee Valley Japanese waterstone, about 10 yrs old. I'm hoping that using it, in combination with a strop (w/ one side w/ strop paste--something like the Razor Strop Paste from Thiers-Issard) will do the trick. I failed to note that I'm simply trying to get a sharp enough straight edge to shave comfortably.
Here's a question: after using the 1k/4k stone, should I polish the edge with a 12k stone before stropping? Or will the Thiers-Issard do it?Last edited by pcg; 07-25-2011 at 12:04 PM.
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07-25-2011, 12:12 PM #8
Well, I don´t know your stone. If it is that old, maybe you should post a picture of it.
It is especially important that the stone is quite flat.
If your 1k/4k is of very good quality, then you might be able to shave off the 4k side of your stone with a TI pasted strop afterwards.
But this is a very low standart.
Usually it is preferred to go up to 8.000 and sometimes even surpass it to 12.000.
FYI if you´re eyeing with the Chinese 12k or PHIG you will definitely need a stone in between 4k and PHIG.
A recommended system is Norton 1k, 4k/8k and a finishing stone ~12k or a pasted strop
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07-25-2011, 12:20 PM #9
Thanks again. Sounds like I need to pick up an 8,000 and then finish with the TI paste. So much to learn!
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07-25-2011, 12:34 PM #10
Well you probably should pick up a 8.000. But again, you can not use any 1k/4k combination stone for sharpening razors.
If this is your stone, than it looks very much like a King brand combination stone.
These are usable but again at a rather low standart. Do you know how to flatten your stone?