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    lets say you finish on a 10 to 12k oe a coticule or any finisher. then go go to hight grit jap finisher? what is the advantage of using a light slurry to water? as apose going to water only? It has been said that the slurry to water for razors is the way to go.

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    Hello Gary
    Beginning with a light slurry will give the stone a jump start in the cutting action department. With a good high grit natural japanese stone and a light slurry you should be able to remove all of the scratches left from a 10k or even 6,000 grit stone within 30-40 strokes. This will determine the edge built with a scratch pattern made up from the finish stone. After you have done this then if you want you can further refine the edge by thining the slurry over the next 30 strokes until you end up with more or less clear water. At this stage the edge will develop a foil (burr) edge that is somewhat fragile but will with some light stroping and further very light honing with clear water develop into a brighter polished edge and hopefully according to your skill be ready to shave with. Alx
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    Quote Originally Posted by gary haywood View Post
    lets say you finish on a 10 to 12k oe a coticule or any finisher. then go go to hight grit jap finisher? what is the advantage of using a light slurry to water? as apose going to water only? It has been said that the slurry to water for razors is the way to go.

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    On these hard Ozukus you really need to start out with slurry, light slurry will help a lot Then just strop it with water only for 10-20 strokes

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxim207 View Post
    On these hard Ozukus you really need to start out with slurry, light slurry will help a lot Then just strop it with water only for 10-20 strokes
    then just strop it on the hone with water, so basicly back honing? or do you mea finish with 20 normal x strokes?

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    Hi Gary
    I am finishing with X or edge on strokes on the stone with clear water. On the strop, more and more I am treating my finished edges with a bit more care after looking at them with an 800x microscope, and nine out of ten times I am stroping on my palm or a softer padded bench strop rather than a hard leather strop. I do not necessarily encourage back strokes but some may have had good results. Alx
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    I've been playing around with slurry a little lately on my Oozuku suita and Nakayama asagi stones. particularly on the suita it seems to give the stone better feedback and appears to make it cut a bit faster, but on that stone I have to be careful to not make too much slurry. The asagi seems to not care one way or the other whether there is slurry or not, although I have noticed that if I use slurry on that one the feedback feels nicer.

    But the one thing I have noticed on both stones is that the finished edge straight off the stone will not plink arm hairs. However, give the razor a strop and all of a sudden the arm hairs are a-poppin'! Anyone else experience this? And what do you guys think it means?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo View Post

    But the one thing I have noticed on both stones is that the finished edge straight off the stone will not plink arm hairs. However, give the razor a strop and all of a sudden the arm hairs are a-poppin'! Anyone else experience this? And what do you guys think it means?

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    It seems like you overdue with slurry, mine pups arm hairs from it direct, i can even shave from the stone without a problem.

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    It happens, particularly off the asagi, even without using slurry. After stropping the edge is really nice, and fairly robust (as in it lasts a long time). I suppose grit is being raised from the surface of the stone even when I do not deliberately make a slurry, but it cannot be that much can it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gary haywood View Post
    then just strop it on the hone with water, so basicly back honing? or do you mea finish with 20 normal x strokes?
    Just finish with 20 very light x strokes
    Be sure that your stone is super clean when you do with water only !!!
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