Thread: J-Nat club

this is my rock. Nakayama Kita of the family Ka and Ichi. with stamp "Nihon Kamisori" He has a Nakayama Nashiji, pear skin....

I am happy to see some ki-ita and color stones being tried and tested these past few weeks. Some users feel that the harder the stone the better, this is not necessary true. For razors the finer the grit sounds more practical to me. Some vintage (not newly mined) kiita and iro (color) stones have very fast cutting action which makes for less time spent on the stone and the grit can, in some very choice selection stones, actually be as fine as asagi stones. These are beautiful examples above. Alx

They are very nice pre-polishers but still for nice edge nothing bits super hard stone

Here are my two finishers and two naguras(tomo and lyo):



One is a nakayama karasu, the other okudo nashiji(suita if I am correct). My camera
can't do justice to the karasu.

Sharpman

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I googled for this, but I simply don't understand how to do this.

sharpman which of your finisher's is the better ?

Originally Posted by eleblu05

sharpman which of your finisher's is the better ?

I like the one with karasu better. It is a harder stone. Very beautiful
stone, but it quite thin. About 1 cm thick.

Sharpman

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Here are a couple of photos of kiita stones, the thick one, a Nakayama Maruka at 35mm thick and has not been used, the middle one is only 3mm thick at this time and the smaller one is 15mm thick and has stamps on the end showing that it is about 1/2 used up. I am quite certain that the 3mm thick stone was as thick as the Maruka at one time, it just kept getting remounted as it got thinner.

When I was in Japan in October I visited 5 old timer barber shops to ask about what stones they used for kamisori. Each and every one came up with a color stone of some description, only two had an asagi in their drawer of stones. I personally like to shave off an asagi as well as kiita, but at these high grit levels during the sharpening stages there is not a whole lot of difference between those strata in high grade stones. For polishing, which I do not usually go beyond a few strokes with clear water, I think however that the harder asagi have a leg up on the color stones. For pure sharpening speed I find the color stones are usually faster, thus as Maxim said as "pre-polishers". I shave every day however off of "un-polished" blades. And I see the idea of spending 1/2 to 1 1/2 hour polishing a blade, as has been reported, if I am not mistaken, as overkill. But posting here with a group where some of the fellows choose to finish off on strops fitted with NASA inspired abrasive dust, I feel humbly old fashioned. Alx