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12-12-2011, 01:10 AM #1
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Hello all
I have been reading some of the threads about hones and honning,, many years ago there were the barber hones and I think they didnīt have so much headache choosing between so many hones 4000, 8000, 12,000 or even 30,000 grit or the diamond pastes etc etc etc.. Seems like honning is quite complicated,,, would a barber hone like the Swaty be the best and simple option even if it takes more time to hone or touching a razor?? I mean I just want to keep a good sharp on my new razor without spending so much money....
Thanks all your comments will be appreciated
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12-12-2011, 01:27 AM #2
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Thanked: 247I have limited experience. But I did a little experiment recently, using a completely dull razor and a barber hone. According to my log, I went 620 strokes before I gave up and went to a Norton 1k.
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12-12-2011, 01:32 AM #3
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Thanked: 13226Yes... To your direct question...
The huge difference between then and now are the razors themselves, we spend so much time honing because the razors are not "Shave Ready" down on the corner like they were back then... Find an un-opened NOS razor and you will probably have very little problem getting her dialed in with a Barber"s hone...
_But_
Buy one off e-bay that has been neglected for the last 75 years in the back of somebody's drawer, and you have a good time trying
it is possible BTW just not very fun..
Barber's Hones are designed for quick maintenance touch up's not extensive bevel establishment..
Start with a shave ready razor and a B-Hone is all you might ever need to keep shaving with againLast edited by gssixgun; 12-12-2011 at 01:35 AM.
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12-12-2011, 01:50 AM #4
I've been wondering what the razor manufacturers used to hone up their razors before they left the factory back in the day.
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12-12-2011, 01:59 AM #5
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12-12-2011, 02:04 AM #6
Hi!!
Listen, IMO barber hones are for maintenance AFTER the bevel has been set correctly. However, I do have a few barber hones that are extremely course and could possibley set a bevel if necessity forced it upon a person. Now, having said that, I surely would not try and set a bevel with a barbers hone, that basically cost me more than a good King 1k stone would cost. i.e. I have several BH's that I spent at least $26 on each. Most are 2 sided BH's and are great at keeping a bevel sharp and polished. I have @$19 in a King 1k that will set the bevel in a very short time when used properly.
I guess my point is really, one could attempt to set a bevel on a very special BH, like an Aloxite #200, which I believe is course enough. Or one could use it to touch up a otherwise uncomfortable shaving razor in 5 or 6 laps and then I use another, much harder and higher grit BH to polish it up with.
My 2 cents FWIW.
Happy shaves!
Mike-- Any day I get out of bed, and the first thing out of my mouth is not a groan, that's going to be a good day --
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12-12-2011, 02:07 AM #7
Once a razor is truly sharp, the barbers hone can keep it that way indefinitely! The other hones we use are to restore a razors edge, like Glen said, most of these things have been "bumping" around in a drawer somewhere for 75 years and need some TLC.
It is easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled. Twain
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12-12-2011, 02:16 AM #8
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12-12-2011, 03:57 AM #9
Anything 8k or above will do the same as a barber hone. The majority of barber hones, IMO, are not anywhere near as high a grit as say a Naniwa 12k or a Shapton glass.
M-- Any day I get out of bed, and the first thing out of my mouth is not a groan, that's going to be a good day --
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12-12-2011, 04:39 AM #10
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Thanked: 247The majority of barber hones, IMO, are not anywhere near as high a grit as say a Naniwa 12k or a Shapton glass.
Many apologies if this is a thread hijack.