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01-09-2012, 06:43 PM #11
I have to ask, do they have any difference from the rest of the MST company "Thuringian" stones? Their price is much higher than the rest.
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01-09-2012, 07:01 PM #12
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01-10-2012, 12:09 AM #13
Coticules are expensive, I can't really understand why, supposedly because they where rare until 10 years ago (today there is one 6x2 coticule for every person of the planet but we still manage to keep their price above 100$), but they are coticules. We know that the timbertools thuringians are MST Thuringians. What I'm saying is, you can find MST thuringians for 30-40$ including shipping, but they sell the same size MST stones for 129$ plus shipping. Is there something special about them or we re just paying 90$ more for buying it from there because they are named new eschers?
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01-10-2012, 03:17 PM #14
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Thanked: 459That's exactly what I mean by "pricing policy", intentionally price it high, but put it on a page with something higher so that to the uninitiated, it doesn't look that high.
I could be wrong, that's just my opinion, but if they are doing that, they wouldn't be the first place to do it.
You won't see me buying a hone for $129 unless someone vouches for the fineness of the hone. A high quality small japanese natural superfinisher can be had for that, and that is something you can shave comfortably off of guaranteed.
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01-11-2012, 04:38 AM #15
I bought one of the big boys about a year ago, and I use it as a finisher after a coti, works wonders on everything I have used it on. I would like to try an Escher just to see if its any better than this, Maybe I got lucky but its smooth and puts a great finish on my razors.
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01-11-2012, 06:21 AM #16
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Thanked: 522I bought one of these 3-4 years ago and I've had an email conversation with one of the honemeisters about it. No accolades are forthcoming from this corner.
Seems to be in the 6k-8k range at best. I won't enter any honing contests with it. It just sits at the bottom of the pile. I hope it doesn't rust or anything......
Jerry
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OOOPS! Pass the styptic please.
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01-12-2012, 04:13 AM #17
yes I've heard this before, it seems it's the luck of the draw as to whether you get a good one or not, I guess I was just lucky but mine is hard smooth and works very well, but I've also heard tales like yours where they're not really much better than a Norton eight. Supposedly they come from the same place as the Escher's, so I guess it just depends on what part of the rock deposit they are cutting and which one you get as I cannot see that all the good stones are gone, but after a century or so of mining them I'm sure that the choice ones have been pulled out leaving only a few really good ones left. Oh well such is life sorry yours doesn't work that well maybe try lapping it so you get to a different layer, I have noticed that mine has been getting better with use, it's worth a try especially if it's just sitting there.
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01-12-2012, 04:18 AM #18
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Thanked: 11I not gonna be buying one anytime soon. Not much of a gambler, especially when involves money
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01-12-2012, 04:33 AM #19
I don't want to talk you into buying anything that you might not like, I just reported my experience with the one they sent me. But you will more than welcome to pay the premium price buying an old Escher, and as I said I would love to try one just to see if it's better than the stone I have now, as the one I have works very well, but as I was told and as I said it is definitely a gamble.
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01-12-2012, 01:00 PM #20
I'm no expert, but from what I understand, the risk with any natural stone is that there can be a wide variation between each within a given type. I would guess that the mine where true Eschers comes from gave consistently good rocks OR whoever branded them had good quality control. Which it is, I don't know.
I have one of these Thuringians from Timbertools and it's smooth as glass.