Thread: 1k - BBW - Coticule Does anyone else even use this any longer???

This is all pretty interesting. Next time I hone a razor, I'm going to try a test shave after the BBW-- now that I think back on it, the BBW does feel like a very keen edge when using the TPT.

Thanks for the posts guys.

I go Naniwa 1k, BBW with heavy slurry through 5 diluted passes of 25 laps, 8k Naniwa finish on Coticule.

The first two years I learned to hone i used dmt1200, bbw slurry, coticule with water. Then i got my norton and forgot about the bbw stone, its just so hard and slow for a sharpening step imo.

Sham has blue natural stones, unknown, that he sells for about thirty dollars and are 3k level. He found a big rock somewhere and had it cut to hones, which is where it came from. This hone is fast as heck on water and works a lot easier than a bbw stone. I sold my big bbw because it was inferior to this new stone.


Dilution came into the mix too and i guess it became more desirable to new honers...but imo dilution is trickier than a progression based method.



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I have also found that old Coticules thate are glued or natural combination stones have a belgian blue side that seems sometimes less effective to hone on. As mentioned in a million other threads the mine didn't use the BBW side for honing back in the day, just as a useless base. I know it is speculated about new belgian blue stones being sold for honing and therefore may be a more effective cutting stone than layers in the past...But who knows?

I do know that I have had old Coticules with belgian blue on the back of the coticule that were near worthless as cutters.

I know on Bart's new forum: Artisanshaving.org some people are using this method.

OOH I forgot to ask...Does this mean another honing video?!

YAY!

Thanks, Glenn lol.

Originally Posted by gssixgun

I have a question that just came to mind as I am soaking the 1k before I hone a few Sheffield razors..

My goto stone for English steel is a Select Grade Coticule, but I realized that it has been quite some time since I have read about this progression, about 5 years ago it was pretty much the standard way to procede with these...

Does anyone still use these stones in this fashion, I know I didn't for the longest time because I haven't had a BBW since 2009 but I bought a new one and have gone back to using it again... I have been doing the 1-4-8 or 1-3-8 then a Coticule since 2009 but switched back about 2 months ago ..

Anyway it was just a thought that occured to me so I thought I would ask

Hi Glen, I use 1k BBW and coticule and / or thuringians, on almost all my razors with very good results. The problem with BBW is same with all coticule, you have to find a good one. I do couple of X strokes even after coticule with slurry, just before coticule with water only, and improve the keenes of the edge, but again, I found the variation of the BBW stone to be same like Coticule stones. Just my experience.Regards

I can tell you I actually enjoyed the shave this morning from this razor..

http://straightrazorpalace.com/custo...elebrated.html

As many that have read my threads and posts have noticed I am not a huge fan of old heavy Sheffield steel on my face, fact is, in my collection (near 100 razors) I own 2 Sheffield razors... This shave this morning was very comfortable and I pushed it even did a full ATG pass, mainly because of this thread...

As to a Vid ??? Really everything I did is already in there I just added the BBW in the middle instead of some Synthetics

Chosera 1k bevel set
BBW light slurry to train the edge to the stone about 20 Pigtails, dilute out for the next 20 or so X strokes maybe 15-20 out on clear water
Coticule same as BBW above maybe a few more X strokes on clear water...


I am not so sure of a desire to shave off the BBW I guess it is plenty sharp but so is the Chosera bevel set, but under the loupe at 30X it looks about the same scratch pattern as a 3-4k Synthetic.. I know I can smooth it up some with tricks but it isn't something I would aspire too,, Just way to many excellent finishers in the "Hone Chest" to me it would be the same as wanting to make a 4k Norton, a 5k Naniwa or even a 6k King my final stone, I know I could, but I just don't chose to

My first BBW was on a Vinatge Coticule, and it worked, I think this 8x3 that I just got works better, but not a huge difference, and the difference might be I like the 8x3 size the best

I have very much confidence in the BBW. A good progression for my honing style which includes the BBW goes like this:

Chosera 1k, natural 3k from Sham, BBW slurry to clear OR just slurry, Norton 8k, Nani 12k, Thuringian.

Works for me.

JERRY
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Have you tried skipping the bbw and just going from Sham's 3k to norton 8 k? Just curious...

Same question BBW to 8K?

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There is a school of thought that the more hones you use, the fewer strokes you will need and the fewer mistakes you will make by overhoning. This advice comes to me from one of the more famous honemeisters who shall remain anonymous for the time being.

No two honers do it exactly the same way and each of us has the knowledge brought to us by our own experiences. 44 years in my case. You are you and I am me. All I know is that my edges clean my face all the way down to bare skin with no stubble. I had the benefit of a very good personal mentor and for that I am very thankful.

Jerry
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