Went over to Howard's today from The Perfect Edge | For all your sharpening/honing supplies and had an awesome honing session that lasted a few hours. It was my first time at it and we honed up several razors on his stones. His two stones worked so well I had to buy them. I was on the market for the norton 4/8k but I am glad I went with his set. I'll be able to get pictures up tomorrow but just had to share how well his hones were. We even honed up an old henckels chef knife he had laying around.