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    I'm trying to ID this hone from ebay. Originally thought it might be a CF so took a chance as it was cheap. when it arrived it was well warn with dips to centre on both sides; one side 2-3 mm and the other about 1 mm. Set about lapping thinking it was going to hours if not days. Using 100 grit Wet and dry actually took about 40 mins to do both sides so I was amazed, it has to be quite soft. I finished the lapping using 320 and then 400 Grit Wet and dry. It is quite a fine hone and testing it on razors has prodced some fantastic results. I would go as far as to say it's now my fav hone. I've seen a picture of a similar coloured hone here on Straight Razor Place and was wandering if they are the same. The one here on SRP was called Cutlers Green. Pictures below are of my razor pre lapping and after wards and picture of the one called Cutlers Green. If the pictures are not clear, the stone is grey and green (in my opinion an emerald green rather than olive green) Name:  $(KGrHqZ,!hoF!dITeVhZBQ(t608mBQ~~60_12.jpg
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    It is NOT a Charnley Forest. Your info on a cutlers may be correct or it could be a TOS, Tam-O-Shanter.

    That stones looks like it has a lot going on in it and I'm not sure if it's what I would call a razor stone.

    If your experience equals your post count I recommend a set of synthetics for your first stones like Naniwa or Norton's.
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    I don't think are the same stone of our data, and I think also that Olivia make us another of his jokes because I think the stone in database is a Grecian hone.

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    I don't think it is Charnley, and it doesn't look like TOS from the samples I have seen or have. I'm sorry to say so, but this stone from Olivia is not a cuttlers green. Many of us have one like the stone on their picture (I still don't know how it is called), but I think yours is a different stone. Most of those stones are hard. And, so far, cuttlers green stone is just a myth.
    From the strange lines, it could be a stone near the "borders" (not sure which side) of usable stone, and the outside rock. I'm sure that someone will prove me wrong, but that's the beauty of hone identification as long as people don't get confused.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shooter74743 View Post
    It is NOT a Charnley Forest. Your info on a cutlers may be correct or it could be a TOS, Tam-O-Shanter.

    That stones looks like it has a lot going on in it and I'm not sure if it's what I would call a razor stone.

    If your experience equals your post count I recommend a set of synthetics for your first stones like Naniwa or Norton's.
    Yes your correct not that experienced and until I got a coticule I struggled to get the kind of edge I'm looking for. Now happy with the coticule but always stiving for that perfect edge, hence the purchase. Your probably correct because it doesn't look like any stone I've seen, this stone does however seem to suit my limited honing technique and produces a very aceptable shaving edge

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    As someone who has spent probably more than $6000 or $7000 on various stones, I'd suggest spending 6 months to a year working with the first stone that gives you a good shaving edge rather than buying more stones. If you have a super keen edge, you'll always feel like you'd like to have a stone that provides something a little more smooth, and if you have a stone that makes a super smooth edge, you'll always feel like you'd like to have the same type of stone but that would also make the edge more keen.

    You basically end up playing tennis going back and forth between those two until your brain magically one day decides that it likes a stone because it's tired of playing that tennis game.

    Buying unknown stones is a good way to end up with a lot of stones that are sort of mediocre for razors.

    I have 4 stones I'd consider super ideal finishers for razors, maybe 5 maybe 7, and my brain still sometimes wants to play tennis. I had to take the ball away.

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    Interesting hone. However I am with Buschdoctor on this one.
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    looks like a piece of slate to me

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveW View Post
    As someone who has spent probably more than $6000 or $7000 on various stones, I'd suggest spending 6 months to a year working with the first stone that gives you a good shaving edge rather than buying more stones. If you have a super keen edge, you'll always feel like you'd like to have a stone that provides something a little more smooth, and if you have a stone that makes a super smooth edge, you'll always feel like you'd like to have the same type of stone but that would also make the edge more keen.

    You basically end up playing tennis going back and forth between those two until your brain magically one day decides that it likes a stone because it's tired of playing that tennis game.

    Buying unknown stones is a good way to end up with a lot of stones that are sort of mediocre for razors.

    I have 4 stones I'd consider super ideal finishers for razors, maybe 5 maybe 7, and my brain still sometimes wants to play tennis. I had to take the ball away.
    Maybe Dave, he just likes hones.

    I collect lighters & I don't even smoke. Beats the heck out of spending money on booze or women. At least 20 years from now, he will have someting to show for his money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eleblu05 View Post
    looks like a piece of slate to me
    +1, my guess is purple Welsh slate with green inclusions. See Neil's post in this thread:
    http://straightrazorpalace.com/hones...al-hone-4.html
    The diagram shows green veins similar to yours?

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