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    Silkstone doesn't have so pronounced lines, you can barely see them if the stone is dry, and its usual color is dark green blue, almost black. The pattern from the stone above can be present in any slaty stone, there is nothing about it that helps us identify this stone.
    The silkvein stone came in very limited numbers with papers and boxes that say what it is, so I doubt it.
    Don't worry about it. Hone Identification is an abyss.
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    I got digital pictures of several hones I have, including synthetics and I will post them later. I hope at least someone will tell me what grit are they. Mystery hone #1 grit, Mystery Hone #2...
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    Hello,

    sorry for late respond but yesterday I could not connect to SRP.

    Here are picture.No the best one but I try to do my best. Anyone can tell at least what grit are this stones?
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    Whatever they are, they look to be producing fairly large microchips in the edge. Not sure how normal that is but it doesn't look to be anything close to a finishing quality stone.

    Also, did you use different levels of magnification for your pictures?

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    hello,

    I use the same level of magnification but this camera is very tricky under IOS. Saying that I think this pictures are not really what should be. After further thoughts I will do new pictures with only one razor as test case.
    Then we will see progression and have correct test case. Will try to delivery it tonight.

    Thank you!
    Quote Originally Posted by brooksie967 View Post
    Whatever they are, they look to be producing fairly large microchips in the edge. Not sure how normal that is but it doesn't look to be anything close to a finishing quality stone.

    Also, did you use different levels of magnification for your pictures?
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    Hello,

    here we go regards test for TI Dandy:

    1. All synthetics hones during honing droped to DMT325 level then 30 pase with high pressure
    2. All natural stone hones during honing droped to Norton 1K level then 60 with pases high pressure

    In both cases there were no slurry used for honing.

    1. DMT325
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    2. Norton 1K
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    3.Norton 4K
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    4. King 4K
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    5. King 6K
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    6. Norton 8K
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    7. Coti yellow side
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    8. Coti green side
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    9. C12K on water
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    10. C12K on oil
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    11. Hone in question #1
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    12.Hone in question #2
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    13.Hone in question #3
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    14.Hone in question #4
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    15. Small hone attached to wood
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    Hello,

    looks like all 4 hone are pretty close in grit. I would say 8-10k. Well I think I must to test them on other razors.

    Thank you!

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    Quick update:

    I have play little with these stones and this is what I have observed:
    Hone 1-2 are in range of pre-finisher/finisher stone. Why finishing stone too? Well, when I have used both stones as slurry stone (means I used hone 1-2 to create slurry for each stone) performance increased to really outstanding finisher. Just this morning I shaved with one old French razor, which I never used before, honed and finished on hone 1-2 combination. Smooth, very smooth blade.
    Hone 3-4 are in range of my coti with heavy to mid range slurry. Small hone attached to wood (not picture attached) is pretty interesting stone. Very soft but fast cutting. At best It could be in 10k range and below. His performance vary and are related to amount of water I`m using during honing. Kind of coti, but not coti.

    To add to this I have 12 more stones on the way. I guess from this point on instead asking great SRP forum members for help I have to work on my own. With all respect to all members but some stones/hones are just a big mystery and identification is hard, we all know about this and I really do not wast anyone time if I have same basics work out already. At least now I have some reference from my hones. I`m still missing "great" finisher. I hope maybe some of new stones will be Escher or There :-) For now I will be OK with my LI on oil and C12K on water. Thank you all for your help!

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    Interesting findings and cool pics! At the end of the day, identifying the stones is better left to geologists. As long as you are getting great results from these stones and great shaves from them, be happy!

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