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12-27-2012, 08:44 AM #1
Hi Birnando,
I already have a Norton combination 4k/8k. I can get a proper edge with the Norton, but a bit harsh, I'm looking to get a smoother (and sharper) edge.--
DZacca
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12-27-2012, 08:46 AM #2
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12-27-2012, 08:55 AM #3
Birnando,
one last question
You mentioned the Naniwa being softer than the shapton. Can I lap it with the sandpaper method or does it require a lapping stone? In the latter case, what stone would your recommend (without having to spend a insanely high amount of money for it )?--
DZacca
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12-27-2012, 08:59 AM #4
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Thanked: 1072IMO sandpaper is fine. just did my new Naniwa 12k last week.
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dzacca (12-27-2012)
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12-27-2012, 09:01 AM #5
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12-27-2012, 09:48 AM #6
I really like my Naniwa 12k, but the poor thing hasn't seen much use as I've been teaching myself how to finish with a coticule. Can't speak for the Shapton as I don't own any shaptons, but the edge from the Naniwa 12k is very nice!
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12-27-2012, 09:51 AM #7
Just to help push you back the other way and add to your indecision, I love my Shapton 16K. I also use a Norton 220/1000 and 4K/8K for the progression. I also have a Norton lapping stone, but I got that before I found out that most here use a DMT 325. Oh well, I'm doing fine, even though it takes a bit more breaking in and work to get the Norton 4K/8K stones flattened.
Back to the Shapton 16K - it just feels insanely expensive, like something you should carry in the inside pocket of your Armani tuxedo. It finishes very well, and as fine as it is, you can still change your results greatly with a change in pressure. Generally, start with more pressure and then lighten up as you go. You can see the metal coming off against the white surface and it's certainly fine enough for touching up a razor, much like a barber hone, but all you need is a little water - you don't need to drown it like the Nortons. So, it's a little handier to pull out for touch-ups than other water stones.Last edited by Furcifer; 12-27-2012 at 09:55 AM.
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dzacca (12-27-2012)
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12-27-2012, 10:43 AM #8
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12-27-2012, 09:52 AM #9
Good advice here! The general consensus is that for new people the 12k Naniwa is better than the 16k Shapton. Being less agressive and softer, it is easier to get nice edges with it in the beginning.
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12-27-2012, 10:41 AM #10
Well, considering that I'm far from being an honemeister I'll probably go for the softer naniwa
Being softer I can also spare the money for the lapping stone and I'll continue with the sandpaper as I do for the norton. In the future I'll probably need a proper lapping stone, but I'd rather spend that money on a new razor than on a lapping stone as long as I can continue with the old plain sandpaper--
DZacca