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    The King Ice bear is a good stone to start on, I did. Keep the stone flat. You will need DMT plate anyway at some point. I hope this helps some.
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    I like mine.

    I find the 1k takes quite a bit of soaking and needs frequent lapping. The 6k is almost splash & go. The jump between the two can take some time and you're likely going to want further refinement after the 6k. I find the size good to use as both a bench stone and hand held. I like using the stone with slurry and it feels more like working with natural stone but I don't think it's necessary.

    What are you looking for from you first hone? I think the King is a good stone stone for the price but it basically provides a bevel setter and then a big jump to not quite shave ready. Paired up with a finishing stone and a dmt d8c I find it a decent system for keeping a house full of sharp things but I wouldn't want it as a one stone solution for razors. If you're just looking to keep already sharp razors sharp get a finer synthetic or natural stone, if want to set bevels and prep razors for a final finish on the cheap consider the King.

    A flat bit of marble or glass, some wet/dry paper, a king 1k/6k and a finishing stone/paste/medium provides a fairly budget friendly all in one razor solution in the UK. Whilst bearing in mind you get what you pay for the Chinese natural stones, welsh slates and Muller grindstones that I've tried improve the 6k edge to the point a pleasant shave can be had. If you've not already got it think about some chromium oxide, around 30,000 grit, on a bit of balsa wood or leather, I got mine from Neil at the Strop Shop for less than £2 and a few years on I still think it's the best cost vs performance vs ease of use I've come across.

    Sharpening stuff with my dmt d8c, king 1k/6k, muller grindstone, purple welsh slate, vintage coticule and chromium oxide:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Proinsias View Post
    I like mine.

    I find the 1k takes quite a bit of soaking and needs frequent lapping. The 6k is almost splash & go. The jump between the two can take some time and you're likely going to want further refinement after the 6k. I find the size good to use as both a bench stone and hand held. I like using the stone with slurry and it feels more like working with natural stone but I don't think it's necessary.

    What are you looking for from you first hone? I think the King is a good stone stone for the price but it basically provides a bevel setter and then a big jump to not quite shave ready. Paired up with a finishing stone and a dmt d8c I find it a decent system for keeping a house full of sharp things but I wouldn't want it as a one stone solution for razors. If you're just looking to keep already sharp razors sharp get a finer synthetic or natural stone, if want to set bevels and prep razors for a final finish on the cheap consider the King.

    A flat bit of marble or glass, some wet/dry paper, a king 1k/6k and a finishing stone/paste/medium provides a fairly budget friendly all in one razor solution in the UK. Whilst bearing in mind you get what you pay for the Chinese natural stones, welsh slates and Muller grindstones that I've tried improve the 6k edge to the point a pleasant shave can be had. If you've not already got it think about some chromium oxide, around 30,000 grit, on a bit of balsa wood or leather, I got mine from Neil at the Strop Shop for less than £2 and a few years on I still think it's the best cost vs performance vs ease of use I've come across.

    Sharpening stuff with my dmt d8c, king 1k/6k, muller grindstone, purple welsh slate, vintage coticule and chromium oxide:
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    I'm quite good at sharpening knives and even re-profiling edges to full convex.
    However after reading all your kind answers I think 1 combo stone won't do what I require.

    I plan to sharpen cheap n nasty ebay uk razors so that they are as shave ready as possible given their questionable quality.

    I think my first phase will be with wet 1000 grit sand paper.

    Second phase either ice bear 1k/6k or the more expensive norton 4k/8k. Advise please.

    Third phase dragons tongue like this one perhaps WHETSTONE RAZOR HONE 8-10K! DRAGONS TONGUE SHARPENING STONE WATER HONE | eBay

    For the final phase stropping with dovo paste (green / red) or chrome oxide that I use for knives.

    Any thought or suggestions are most welcome

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    Why not buy a single 1k brick & the Norton 4/8. The 6k of the King is really redundant & the 1k will see the most use.
    Have you seen this thread ? http://straightrazorpalace.com/hones...l-setting.html
    If you buy eBay junkers you can even use your DMT for heavy lifting. Sandpaper is redundant too.
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