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04-06-2013, 02:12 AM #1
Help to identify vintage logo.
Hi fellow Haddicts,
Has anyone got an idea what this logo/brand may be on this stone?
It looks like a medium/fine India/aluminium oxide stone and I can't get it out of the box to see the full logo. The word "TRADE" is just visable on the left side and I'll say "MARK" would be on the other side.
The box is made of Huon Pine, a rare Tasmanian timber.
I will appreciate all suggestions. CheersLast edited by Stoned; 04-06-2013 at 05:05 AM.
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04-06-2013, 06:59 AM #2
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Thanked: 202Stone itself looks like India.
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Stoned (04-27-2013)
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04-07-2013, 01:42 AM #3
cant really make out the mark but i do know pike had a circle stamp like that one
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Stoned (04-27-2013)
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04-07-2013, 01:45 AM #4
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Thanked: 2591If I am not wrong there was a round stamp on some Escher and coticules, I wonder if it was Droescher?
JimmyHAD had one of those Eschers I'm sure he will refresh my memory about that.Stefan
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Stoned (04-27-2013)
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04-07-2013, 06:33 PM #5
I Think i have seen the logo on alot of India stones.
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04-08-2013, 12:10 AM #6
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Thanked: 3164I would put it in a warm oven for some time, then see if I could get the stone out. Then something to increase the contrast might help - a little light oiling over the logo, maybe.
There was a company that promoted hones in scandinavia at one time - had the head of a sailor in a circle, if I recall. Can't remember the name, but Oldengaarde would. Could be his neck in your pics.
Regards,
Neil
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Stoned (04-27-2013)
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04-27-2013, 01:01 PM #7
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Thanked: 3164Well, it took a bit of time but I have found the sailor-head logo I was talking about:
It might not be the same as on your hone, but you never know! They did have a rubber-stamp design that appears on the side of hones that looks a bit different - the writing runs around a circle with the sailors head in it.
B. T. Co. is the trademark of Bösenberg, Trinks & Co. They were in business as resellers/makers/suppliers of hones, abrasives, wind-up stroppers (based at Deutsche Schleifmittel Werke, Hamburg) and sharpeners for safety blades, etc, at least up until 1923/4, when it became Schleifmittel AG vormals Pike & Escher and relocated to Sonneburg, Thuringen. They were taken over in 1963 by another company.
Member Hatzicho says that they were a direct follow-up or subsidiary company of J.G. Escher Sohn. The first owner of B.T.Co married a granddaughter of the escher family. B.T.Co also owned or rented some of the Thuringian quarries that J.G. Escher had before.
Regards,
Neil
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04-27-2013, 01:23 PM #8
Just saw this thread so I'm a bit late to the party. Stefan, you've got a memory for this stuff that only a haddict could have. I've got two with that sailor logo on the box. A blue/green and a yellow/green. The blue box for the blue/green stone has "W.F. Crosby, 81-88 Fulton St. N.Y." stamped on the bottom of it. That stone had the Escher 'gold medal' ink stamps on the honing surface and both have what I think is the older Escher back label on them.
One without the signature and one with. I'm thinking that the one without is older, hence when there were some cheap knock offs made Escher added the sig and the warning to only buy stones with the sig. I also think that the scene depicted on these two labels is older than the scene with the barber and one customer on other Escher back labels ...... anybody have info on that ?
Anyway, the ebay seller of the blue/green claimed he had resourced info on W.F. Crosby that dated his biz in NY to 1905-'06 but I haven't been able to find any info myself. Anybody ?
Here is a pic of the stones/boxes;
Last edited by JimmyHAD; 04-27-2013 at 01:27 PM.
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Stoned (04-27-2013)
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04-28-2013, 12:00 AM #9
Hi folks,
I think i may have found the answer while looking around the 'net.
As suspected, the above stone may be a Pike/Norton India stone with the old Tiger within 'India oil stone...sharp and quick' circle logo.
Check out these photos for similarity of the logo. What do you good Haddicts think....?
(The two new Photos are borrowed off the internet for research purposes only & are not mine)Last edited by Stoned; 04-28-2013 at 12:33 AM.
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04-28-2013, 10:21 PM #10
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Thanked: 3215To remove the stone from the box, you have to remove the box, not the stone. Take a small hammer, a 1oz. ball peen works well for this.
Hold the stone in your hand and tap down on the top end of the box, just past the end of the stone. Do a few taps on one end, then a few on the other end. (Lite taps, about like peening taps) You can hear when it breaks loose. Keep alternating ends until it is removed.
If you are careful you can remove the stone without chipping the stone or damaging the box. I recently removed a stone from a very tight fitting, beautiful purbleheart wood box. I will clean and reuse the box, the stone is soaking.Last edited by Euclid440; 04-28-2013 at 10:23 PM.