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Thread: Sealing Jnats
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12-06-2013, 01:44 PM #1
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Thanked: 177Sealing Jnats
Hello, I want to seal my jnats. Went to home depot and was looking at clear polyurethane. Its got oil in it . There are a few types, thompsns watersealer for masonry, water based oil based etc. Any advise as to what to buy. can I use a spray if I tape the top surface of the stone, wash each stone and let dry for how long,and how many coats and how long before I get it wet after sealing. And any other advice as Ive never done this before. Im asking alot here fellas I know, but I dont want to mess it up. I dont think an air gun is agood idea, or is it? Thanks
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12-06-2013, 04:13 PM #2
You can use some plain old clear nail polish.
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12-06-2013, 05:21 PM #3
I go old-school and use urushi which is a pain in the ass (it takes forever to dry and can kill you if you're allergic) but when it dries it looks awesome. I apply a thin layer of polyurethane on top of that for longevity. As per Gamma's suggestion I have tried nail polish on a few nagura and it works well. Revlon is more expensive but more effective according to him but I haven't tried it yet.
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12-06-2013, 05:53 PM #4
I've always used clear nail polish but be sure to get the traditional nitrocellulose-disolved-in-acetone/methylcellosolve type. Some of the modern kind have a completely different formulation. I would test one those carefully before committing a prized jnat to it. Some solvents & plasticizers will bleed through the stone. eg- the plasticizer in the rubber blocks on a new Steelex stone holder will bleed through a Chosera, softening the surface, if left together overnight (don't ask).
Your mention of water base polyurethane made me think of the Minwax Polycrylic that I have used to finish scales. It produces a very nice, durable finish but is a pita to use until you learn how to avoid bubble & I'd set it aside. I just dug it out of the storage pile and applied it to the bottom and sides of a Kouzaki stone. I'll let you know how it works out.
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12-06-2013, 05:55 PM #5
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Thanked: 522Spray lacquer, spray clear acrylic.
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bill3152 (12-06-2013)
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12-07-2013, 12:38 AM #6
Yes ...
I would say don't overthink it.
Actually I know a guy that just uses water based lacquer & just re-coats it as it peels off but if you have soft stones or those prone to cracking the traditional paper & urushi is hard to beat. Most hard finishers don't really need sealing.The white gleam of swords, not the black ink of books, clears doubts and uncertainties and bleak outlooks.
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12-07-2013, 01:25 AM #7
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Thanked: 2591Shellac works great
Nail polish works great
Urushi works- very dangerous if you are allergic, I am also pretty sure it is banned to import in US now.
You can use marine epoxy, any other water based or oil based lacquer.
I prefer Cashew lacquer - it is derivative of Urushi and cashew, it iswhat is used now in Japan mainly.Last edited by mainaman; 12-07-2013 at 01:40 AM.
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bill3152 (12-07-2013)
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12-07-2013, 03:11 PM #8
+1
I opted to seal almost all 50+ of my stones with a masonry\concrete sealer and they come up excellent! Not one problem, the sealer i use is thick so it doesn't soak into the stone and it's super durable! Not to mention it really brings out colors
I have a small tin of this stuff (I believe its Resin based)
Wet Look Paving Sealer: Waterproofing: Crommelin (I don't know if this is Australian only or not)
http://www.bunnings.com.au/sealer-cr...9-001_p0960076
I couldn't say for sure if all concrete sealer would be ok, so if it was using one for the first time i would still do some testing first. Just make sure it doesn't soak into the stone and just sits on the top layer if you do go down this path. Last thing you would want is 10mm of sealer soaked all around in your stoneLast edited by Brighty83; 12-07-2013 at 03:16 PM.
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12-07-2013, 04:05 PM #9
There was a guy on the forum a few years back who was in the cosmetics/nail polish business. It was a thread on protecting the labels on eschers and what have you. I mentioned that I use a nail polish called "Hard As Nails" to cover escher end labels, and, in a PM, he told me that it was real good stuff as nail polishes go. He said there was an ingredient that they continued to use in that, and in the more expensive clear polishes, that they had discontinued in the cheaper stuff. I don't recall what said ingredient was ........... anyway ........
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12-07-2013, 04:33 PM #10
I've always used Shellac.
Works a charm, protects my hones and looks great doing so!Bjoernar
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