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    Lonerider,

    After I have done with the coticule( I have a La Verte & a La Veinette), I finish on a Naniwa 10 or 12k SS. This gives me the edge I like.

    Have fun !

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    Russ

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    It all comes down to who is doing the honing with the coticule, IMO.

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    There are A LOT of different coti's, and A LOT of different people!

    If you want to be sure to get a very sharp edge, in a consistent way, use the synthetics

    Coti's, Jnats, Welsh, German,.... stones all have a different learning curve,
    I had several coti's, they didn't "deliver" to my expectations, the are now with good people who will cherish them,
    NOW I know I didn't deliver to the expectations of those stones!
    Nowadays I've got, again, a couple of "old" coti's and damn! There good!

    Do I get a HHT 4-5 out of them, no, but a HHT 3 and I know while learning, this could get higher
    I do think they will not give the edge of a good Jnat, but I'm now enjoying the feeling of pushing a razor from bevel through pré-finish as far as I can, just to stimulate the learning curve, and then go to my Jnats

    I just needed more time with them I guess

    It's all about what you want of an edge, a stone,...
    Do you want to spend time on a stone or not, do you want to learn on naturals or rather on the synth's...

    Some coti's, Jnat,... are easy to learn, others not

    My experience at this moment led me also to believe that there is indeed a difference in the "old" and new ones,
    but maybe I'm wrong...

    Just learn what you want to learn, have fun, enjoy!

    The rest is all up to you and all of us!

    Kindest regards,
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    A large percentage of the coticule edges I've encountered are underdone, especially if the honer has opted to set the bevel on the coticule as well. Once I feel the edge is "there" I do another dilution cycle. This usually gets me to the level of refinement I like. If not, I'll continue with watery slurry dilution cycles until I'm happy.
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    People who hone with coticules generally don't know how to hone.

    I'm kidding!
    I just wanted to post that for a reaction.

    I started honing with coticules and used then exclusively for awhile. You'll find that there is A LOT of variance in the finishing quality of one to the next.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HNSB View Post
    People who hone with coticules generally don't know how to hone.

    I'm kidding!
    I just wanted to post that for a reaction.

    I started honing with coticules and used then exclusively for awhile. You'll find that there is A LOT of variance in the finishing quality of one to the next.
    Well, you got me pegged with that one...I have a coticule and don't know how to hone!!
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    I meant no disrespect, it was simply an observation.

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    My comment was just a little friendly ribbing toward some of my friends who use coticules exclusively.
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    I'm in the same boat: I tried two coticules and have never managed to get a properly sharp edge from them. Red DOVO paste made a big difference. Currently, I have one old barber's coticule that I hope to use as a finisher, so far with little luck.
    I want a lather whip

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    Sometimes it pays to experiment with different finishing techniques on coticule. Some stones do well when finishing on plain water, or even under running water. Other stones might excel when a 'misty' slurry is used to finish. This can be done by rubbing the slurry stone over the coticule once or twice to create 'slurry-tinged water'....

    I have even fooled around with using Norton Honing Oil on my coticule to finish. It actually seems to work well as coticules are non-porous....You can just wash it off with normal dish soap....
    -JP-

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