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12-26-2013, 05:53 PM #1
Honing stones selection
Hello guys,
I am quiet a newbie in the whole honing process. I own a belgian coticule (125x45 mm) and I can say that I have got some encouraging results so far (acceptable not perfect). So I have been thinking about buying some more stones, my budget is quite limited (around 120 dollars). I have narrowed my option to two:
1) King 1000, King 4000, King 6000
2) King 1000, King 4000, Chinese 12000
So which one do you think is better and why? Also do you have any other recommendations to make?
Thank you a lot for your time,
Jason
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12-26-2013, 06:00 PM #2
I'd go for the King 1 & 4 only for the time being. Your coticule may be good enough to give satisfactory finish. If it turns out you want/need more get the Chinese 12k. The 6k will not add that much to the mix IMHO.
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12-26-2013, 06:09 PM #3
So you suggest using 1 to set the bevel, start polishing at 4 and then hone on the coticule varying the slurry?
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12-26-2013, 06:28 PM #4
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Thanked: 38I regularly use a combination stone king 1/6k, then the coticule or some other finisher. I find the 6k effective to clean the scrape pattern from 1k and better (finer) to prepare for the coticule than the 4k. I assume that 4k and 6k are almost equivalent, that is it's useless buying both. The advantage of 6k over 4k is that you can buy the combination stone 1/6k and save some money.
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12-26-2013, 11:48 PM #5
An alternative to the Chinese is the Kitayama. I know there have been discussions as to whether it's a 12K or not but before I got my escher and Coticule it was my finisher and it didn't do too shabby a job and it's way faster than the Chinese.
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12-27-2013, 12:11 AM #6
It really depends upon your reason for honing.
If you are rescuing ebay/flea market type razors, you need to start with the bevel, of course. In that case, Sterm's suggestion of the 1K/6K King would be just the thing for a limited budget. If your coticule is a hard one (does not autoslurry noticably), you should be able to get a good finish from it on soap or glycerin.
If, on the other hand, you are merely maintaining a few already shave ready razors, all you need is the finisher. A bevel need only be set once barring accidental damage. Once a razor is brought to shave ready condition it only needs touch ups to maintain it. I often suggest a "5-5-12" plan, ie- five no pressure laps every five shaves on a 12K Naniwa SS. Since the coticule is less agressive than the Naniwa, you might use something like 8-10 laps. A shave ready razor maintained in this fashion should never need a full honing.
If you manage to resist the urge to collect razors big time (good luck with that!), I would suggest that if you buy a new razor that is not shave ready or if you buy the occasional vintage razor, send it out to a pro for honing and maintain it as suggested above. You'll be money ahead. Spend some of that budget on soaps or perhaps another strop to scratch the acquisition itch.
+1 on what spendur said about the C12K. Not only are they very slow but there is tremendous variation in quality from stone to stone - you might buy three or four of them before you find one that works for you. (I tried three of them, sold/traded them all.)
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