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Thread: Removing Faucet Ding
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12-28-2013, 03:54 PM #1
Removing Faucet Ding
I have a small ding in a razor that I would like to remove. Sorry for the lousy picture. I would like some advice on whether I can hone this out or if if will need more drastic work. I have a 1K Naniwa and a 4K/8K Norton. I have a DMT in 325 and 600 also that I use for knife sharpening. I have a 12K Norton that I use for finish work. I read the wiki article here by gssixgun on bread knifing but was not sure if this would require attempting that procedure. Can I just use the 1K the way I would set a bevel and hone until the ding is gone or should I try to bread knife it and reset the bevel. I am pretty much a beginner at honing although I am able to maintain an edge that has been set by one of the hone meisters on this forum and have been successful at resetting a bevel with the 1K Naniwa.
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12-28-2013, 04:01 PM #2
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Thanked: 20I think that's way too small a ding for breadknifing. Just work it out with the 1K or the 325 DMT and take it through a normal progression after that.
Rick
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bbtech (12-28-2013)
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12-28-2013, 04:47 PM #3
+1 its small and only effects the original bevel. just use a layer of tape on the spine or you will be honing that flat and wasting steel getting that chip out.
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bbtech (12-28-2013)
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12-28-2013, 04:57 PM #4
I agree. It looks from the pic like a pretty small ding, so it *shouldn't* take much to work it out. Start on the 1000 first though. I haven't used the Naniwa 1K, but if this was mine, I'd start with my 1K Norton before going lower. Going to a lower grit would of course be faster, but you would be giving yourself more work down the road dealing with the deeper scratching from the DMT. Basically, less is more. If you have to go to 325, then do it. But if you don't, then don't.
As for breadknifing, I can obviously only go with what's in the pic, but it doesn't look like it would be at all necessary. Again, you'd probably be creating much more work than necessary if you took that step when it isn't needed.
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bbtech (12-28-2013)
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12-28-2013, 05:08 PM #5
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Thanked: 3224Just what everyone else has said. The ding is small enough that you could hone it out by re setting the bevel on the 1K Nani. I would stay away from the 325 DMT as it creates a lot of work to get rid of the deep scratches it puts in the blade. Glen has an alternative to bread knifing using the DMT 325 if you need to do it. That should be in the honing section somewhere.
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bbtech (12-28-2013)
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12-28-2013, 05:09 PM #6
Starting at 1K, try a couple layers of tape on the spine to hone out the chip. Then reset the bevel at 1K with one layer and run through your progression IMO. How did you say you chipped it?
this might be useful sir.. http://straightrazorpalace.com/shavi...ing-video.html
MikeLast edited by MODINE; 12-28-2013 at 05:23 PM. Reason: update vid
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bbtech (12-28-2013)
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12-28-2013, 05:31 PM #7
Thank you all for the advice. That was my initial opinion also. I will tape and start with the 1K. I dinged it on the faucet when rinsing during shaving. I was too lazy to grab an extra towel to wipe the razor during shaving on that morning. Another lesson learned.
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12-28-2013, 06:13 PM #8
Yeah, what all they said. I'm just adding that I triple tape any time i go back to DMT. This keeps the diamonds scratches closer to the edge, where they'll mostly get honed/polished away.
Also, WRT bread knifing--let's coin a new term, "Pocket Knifing" to describe honing with the spine lifted-as if one were sharpening a pocket knife. Pocket Knifing works to quickly to "clean" an edge without going so radical as Bread Knifing. I've found pocket knifing to be plenty fast-in my relatively limited experience.
Saves tape wear too. AS soon as ding/nick/pit is cleared (and sometimes just a teeny bit before), start working back down to a proper, spine-on-stone bevel.
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bbtech (12-29-2013)
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12-28-2013, 06:32 PM #9
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Thanked: 3224Yea, that is the alternative to conventional bread knifing I was thinking about. Right down to just a tiny bit before the ding disappears remove the 3 layers of tape, re tape with one layer and set bevel with 1K stone. Works great with really messed up edges.
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bbtech (12-29-2013)
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12-29-2013, 12:44 PM #10
I honed my razor starting with 2 layers of tape on the 1K Naniwa and worked until I got rid of the ding. I removed the tape, re-taped and set the bevel on the 1K. After that I did my usual progression to bring the blade to shave ready condition. Thank you to everyone that replied. Used the razor this morning by the way and it shaved great.