may not be the correct place for this post , ill leave it to the mod gods ,, with discusions in the past for and against the shapton hones ,, I would like to say that in the right hands and on the right steel they work great I just got my kinfolks blue steel back from gssixgun and I just had the smoothest ,close shave ive had to date. thank you glen your a professional and a pretty good guy all around and if ive learned anything on this forum its that no one razor or set of stones will be the same , I know my limitations , ill let glen elaborate on his technic. any way that's my post and opinion and keep the great info coming