Thread: 20 x 8k, 20 x 16k, 15 x 8k, 20 x 16k, 10 x 8k, 20 x 16k, 5 x 8k, 20 x 16k...

Bit bored today so I honed all these on the Norton 8 and Shapton 16k. I did a pyramid as indicated in the thread title. This is the second time I've done this pyramid and I think I like the results. A couple of razors also got some circles on the 8 and some extra attention where needed (i.e. for the slightly warped De Pews and Joseph Elliott).

I think the Norton 8 and Shapton 16 is a nice pyramid if you have those hones...

Nice line up!

Awesome razors! What are the white handles?

Originally Posted by Steel

Awesome razors! What are the white handles?

Ta. The one on the top left is a Klas Törnblom with ivory scales. The other is a Burrell Top Flight with plastic scales.

I'm definitely curious about this. The pyramid approach to honing has the benefit of reducing the harm done by doing too many strokes on higher grit synthetics, but for most razors 20 strokes on either a Norton 8k or on a Shapton 16k are too many and lead to edge breakdown. It seems to me that the repeated combinations would be even more destructive but I will reserve judgement until I can try it for myself.

Howdy Carl, I'm assuming all of these razors were fairly well shave ready when you started. Please check in and let us know how they shaved after the pyramids. Thanks

Bill

Originally Posted by Utopian

I'm definitely curious about this. The pyramid approach to honing has the benefit of reducing the harm done by doing too many strokes on higher grit synthetics, but for most razors 20 strokes on either a Norton 8k or on a Shapton 16k are too many and lead to edge breakdown. It seems to me that the repeated combinations would be even more destructive but I will reserve judgement until I can try it for myself.

Hey Ron, Good to see you back. We met at the KC Meet-up this last October. I had the Boker that Sham was sure was not a Boker. He was correct that it had been over-honed and proceeded to straighten it out for me by dropping back to a 1000 and working up. Remember? Anyway, I have the problem of too many laps on the high-end stones and I'm learning to stop when get to the right place. Picked up a thuringian finisher and it seems to help. Will try a pyramid next time. Good to see your post.

Bill

I red the title and got cross-eyed
good that the methods gives reliable results

Originally Posted by Utopian

I'm definitely curious about this. The pyramid approach to honing has the benefit of reducing the harm done by doing too many strokes on higher grit synthetics, but for most razors 20 strokes on either a Norton 8k or on a Shapton 16k are too many and lead to edge breakdown. It seems to me that the repeated combinations would be even more destructive but I will reserve judgement until I can try it for myself.

I'm not sure, all I know is that the Jernbolaget was beautiful when I used it yesterday and the W&B was fine today. The Swedish razors have harder steel; so I find they do need more work. I'll report back on the others I honed this way as I use them...

Originally Posted by WJF

Howdy Carl, I'm assuming all of these razors were fairly well shave ready when you started. Please check in and let us know how they shaved after the pyramids. Thanks

Bill



Hey Ron, Good to see you back. We met at the KC Meet-up this last October. I had the Boker that Sham was sure was not a Boker. He was correct that it had been over-honed and proceeded to straighten it out for me by dropping back to a 1000 and working up. Remember? Anyway, I have the problem of too many laps on the high-end stones and I'm learning to stop when get to the right place. Picked up a thuringian finisher and it seems to help. Will try a pyramid next time. Good to see your post.

Bill

Hi Bill. Yes, they were all shave ready, but needed a touch up. It may be true that I over did it; I guess time will tell. As I posted, the Jernbolaget was really beautiful to use after this pyramid, and the W&b was very nice too. I'll let you know if I notice edge degradation.

Wouldn't 10x 8K and 20x 16K be plenty for a touch-up? It seems like so many strokes to me too.