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03-21-2007, 03:39 AM #1
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03-21-2007, 09:51 AM #2
-1-2 minutes on the yellow is all you need to make a razor shaveready.
- use red paste after the yellow coticule (red paste is coarser than yellow, so this doesn't make sense)
- the primary purpose of a linen strop is to clean away any red paste that might cling to a razor.
- keep the strop hanging slack when you strop. ditto for loom style strops. if you use a wooden paddle strop, draw the razor across the side of the paddle.
- if the edge of a razor is even a bit damaged, you have to let it be reground before you can use it again, or throw it away.
- using a blue stone is almost identical to a yellow if you use a yellow rubbing stone.
- use the TNT to determine if the edge is shaveready or not.
- lapping a stone is not necessary (at least, he never mentioned lapping)
And I am probably forgetting a couple of things.
Still, it got me started. And admittely, if you never let a razor get dull, a couple of minutes on the yellow is all you need.Til shade is gone, til water is gone, Into the shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath.
To spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the Last Day
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03-21-2007, 01:56 PM #3
Bruno,
Wow, that's a lot to have to unlearn. At least I know who to blame for all the things I had to unlearn--me!
Josh
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03-21-2007, 02:00 PM #4
Damm Did they start the course by saying this is a course on how not to sharpen a razor!!
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03-22-2007, 01:53 AM #5
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Thanked: 55I agree, there's a lot of questionable material there. The whole red paste thing makes me think they don't quite know what they're doing and they're just handicapping themselves. I'd be interested to what kind of edge they wind up producing. It'd be interesting to try it.
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EL
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03-22-2007, 08:34 PM #6
I forgot one: taping the spine is unnecessary.
Seriously. The guy honed a TI damast (750 euro thank you very much) without taping the spine.
Til shade is gone, til water is gone, Into the shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath.
To spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the Last Day
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03-22-2007, 09:10 PM #7
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Thanked: 2YES if you already did the 4k and 8k. So it is not a wrong statment
The color doesn't mean anything. So you can't know if they are right or wrong.
Maybe it is not the best way to use it, but i certainly can do it
Bill recommends that too.
Depending what "bit" means, if bit = 2mm deep so they are right, if bit = 0.01 mm so they are wrong
Wrong if "blue stone" = "Belgian Blue Stone"
Wrong, if you do that you will know if it WAS shaveready...he hehe
If they never said that, they didn't say that it is not necessary.
The most important thing is that this is an art.....everyone of us will have our only best way to do it.....
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03-25-2007, 08:00 AM #8
Teach said that you needed ONLY the yellow.
I asked here, and the dovo red past was coarser than the yellow, was the concensus.
But it has other uses as well.
everyone else on this forum recommends a taut strop, incl Lynn and Tony as far as I understood.
I stropped my razor badly on a pasted strop. The edge was gone, but definitely nothing that 30 minutes on the norton doesn't fix.
On the coticule it took about 8 hours.
His advice for that edge was to throw away the razor or send it to dovo for a regrind
Belgian blue stone indeed.
I've noticed, yes.
It was implied by the fact that they didn't mention it. If I go to a course where the teacher asserts that we will walk out, knowing all you need to know to hone a razor, I would expect that lapping was one of the thing that is worth mentioning.
True. I don't regret taking the course because it showed me lots of things. I may not agree with most of it now, but at least it got me started.
A lot of what he said is valid in the context of razors that only need a light touching up.Til shade is gone, til water is gone, Into the shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath.
To spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the Last Day