Thread: pastes and honing

Early stage honing Im thinking not good(Im guessing now LOL) but later on to finish convex is great IMO. My best Jnat edges are slightly con-vexed. And regarding synthetics, I use crox after 20k suehiro on a hanging linen strop. A yielding substrate IMO makes for a more comfortable edge.

Originally Posted by gssixgun

Just to make this interesting

Why do some of you think that a "Rounded" "Convex" bevel is bad ???

Truthfully I've always been taught (from a knife/bushcraft background) that a slightly convexed edge would have better edge retention and strength due to the added girth of metal directly behind the cutting edge while still allowing for a very keen edge. So for me I think I convex edge on a razor would probably have exceptional edge retention. But.... Would be an absolute pita to get shave ready again once that edge is lost.

Damnit now I'm gonna go put my money where my mouth is and try to add a slight convex to a razor and see what happens.

I actually read it was a pretty good edge type with knives, but difficult to maintain. I may be mistaken though. I imagine it could be good up to a point on a razor but eventually you are gonna end up with a completely rounded edge.

Originally Posted by gssixgun

Just to make this interesting

Why do some of you think that a "Rounded" "Convex" bevel is bad ???

Originally Posted by ncraigtrn

Damnit now I'm gonna go put my money where my mouth is and try to add a slight convex to a razor and see what happens.

Give that man a cigar that is the right answer..

The tough part is figuring the Convexity of the edge, it isn't quite as easy as one is lead to believe by simply reading posts on Shave Forums..

Hint: Research the term "Micro-Bevel" it will let you achieve a Convex bevel much faster, easier, and more accurately then simply trying to "paste" one on there..

You might also do some research into some of the really nice DE blades to find that some also play with Micro-beveling to achieve a Convex shape..

All this stuff is hidden away here in the deep dark recesses of SRP

But don't just read about the experiments that some of us did back then, try your own

Originally Posted by gssixgun

Give that man a cigar that is the right answer..

The tough part is figuring the Convexity of the edge, it isn't quite as easy as one is lead to believe by simply reading posts on Shave Forums..

Hint: Research the term "Micro-Bevel" it will let you achieve a Convex bevel much faster, easier, and more accurately then simply trying to "paste" one on there..

You might also do some research into some of the really nice DE blades to find that some also play with Micro-beveling to achieve a Convex shape..

All this stuff is hidden away here in the deep dark recesses of SRP

But don't just read about the experiments that some of us did back then, try your own

Correct me if I'm wrong. Let's say I have a razor I hone with one layer of tape. At my finisher I do my thing and then add an additional layer and do 10-12 laps. Would that not add a very slight micro bevel that would then create an ideal convexivity once stropped?

Originally Posted by ncraigtrn

Correct me if I'm wrong. Let's say I have a razor I hone with one layer of tape. At my finisher I do my thing and then add an additional layer and do 10-12 laps. Would that not add a very slight micro bevel that would then create an ideal convexivity once stropped?

Not going say

I will tell you that testing for a convex edge isn't so easy
Requires:::: Well lit clear Magnification, a Marker, and a dead flat high grit hone with NO slurry oh yes one other thing a well trained hand pushing the razor down the hone

The slightest deviation can screw up your carefully laid plans, trust me on this LOL

Originally Posted by gssixgun

Not going say

I will tell you that testing for a convex edge isn't so easy
Requires:::: Well lit clear Magnification, a Marker, and a dead flat high grit hone with NO slurry oh yes one other thing a well trained hand pushing the razor down the hone

The slightest deviation can screw up your carefully laid plans, trust me on this LOL

Cmon I'm not asking the golden ticket. Just that I'm headed the right direction.

You are headed in the right direction hehehe

Just warning ya it isn't quite as easy as many think,,

IIRC it is Feather that does a stepped triple Micro-Bevel on some of their blades that might be even easier

Originally Posted by gssixgun

You are headed in the right direction hehehe

Just warning ya it isn't quite as easy as many think,,

IIRC it is Feather that does a stepped triple Micro-Bevel on some of their blades that might be even easier

Well I am not as proficient at honing as you nor the gear to work with but... I have determination and an ern I'm refurbing that may just see a intentionally convexed edge.

Hmmm

I just remembered this thread when showing this grind in another thread

http://straightrazorpalace.com/custo...al-scales.html


Post # 19 Oz links this patent

Patent US693524 - Razor. - Google Patents

Read George Korn's description of his objective for the grind :hmmm sounds like this thread huh???